New NSX or used 458 - Interesting take

Sorry, no offense intended. My remark was addressed only to someone -- presumably not Rocketman -- who might find the reasoning expressed in the linked article to be persuasive (i.e. quieter is better).

 

I´d prefer an old NSX over the new one. The old NSX looks better and is already fast enough for me. And it´s cheaper too. Oh, it´s not as good as a daily driver: well, I can´t use a mid-engine two seater as a daily driver anyway, so I don´t care.

 

Seems most people would opt for the ferrari over the Acura. Wow!! And coming from a ferrari forum OMG, I'm utterly shocked!! Lol

 

yes 458 over acura here (and everywhere else)

but what about nsx vs ptt, r8, or 570s

id like to know how fchat ranks those 4. I would go 570, r8, nsx, ptt. would put nsx first if it proves to be reliable on track

 

Nah looks like a turd.i say thumbs up on the 458

 

I have been a huge Nsx guy and sold my 2002 Nsx last year after owning the car for 10 years. I put my name down over 3 years ago to be first at my local dealer for the new Nsx. I told myself it was either that or a 458. The more the Nsx kept getting delayed, the more my eyes wandered around. After seeing what they decided was the final look of the car, I went wth the 458. And I couldn't be happier. Sorry Honda. Better luck next time but that's no Nsx.


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Nor I.

 

How many people spend days / weeks toiling over Honda vs. Ferrari. It's a wonder books and movies haven't flooded the market on this issue. very very tough decision indeed.

 

I was at the NSX launch and have driven a 458. I think if you're someone who is only doing street driving the NSX is going to feel faster than the 458 with the way it surges forward from low speeds (and the launch). But if you're someone who is well and truly in love with the wail of that naturally-aspirated V8 (and the gorgeous curves), the NSX probably won't make you as happy. The interior is another area where the 458 has the edge over the NSX.

I kind of feel like if you wanted a 458 and have the budget to buy a low mileage example, you would've already bought one. The closest you can really get to the NSX's price with a used 458 is around $165k, and that's for a 2010 458 with around 30k miles. If price is that much of a factor, one has to think hard about buying a 458 with no warranty versus a brand new car, not to mention depreciation. The NSX is sold out into the second year and they're only make 800ish a year so prices will probably stay strong for awhile. If you buy that 30k mile 458, you have to think about how much you're going to drive it and how much of a hit on value that'll be.

The NSX has a lot of interesting qualities but at the end of the day it's about how the car makes you feel, and whether you think that feeling is worth it. For people who've lusted after a 458 but are limited to buying one with higher mileage, the financial downside may be worth it. For people who buy into the NSX's take on performance, style, and livability, the NSX is the right choice.

However, much like the 488 question, if you haven't already put in your order for a NSX it might be a moot point for at least the next year.

 

I'll be very surprised if there remains a list of buyers after the initial launch wave. Huracan, R8, Mc650s all below msrp new. The NSX isn't special enough to maintain the price.
IMO.

 

Evora 400

 

Honda vs. Ferrari? It will always be "just a Honda".

That list would for me read like this.

458
570S
PTTS
R8
NSX

I think the new NSX is an abomination, Having owned two NSX's back in the day, I see the new NSX being everything the old was not - in a bad way.

 

I think there are people who will want a quiet supercar but I also think most people say- its a supercar so I want it to be long on emotion. And as a friend here once told me sound = energy. No energy = no emotion.

I admire what Acura is doing in terms of technology- but I keep asking what they hope to achieve with the new NSX? When they did the original NSX the Europeans all had problems with quality. These days that's not the case. Back then they were promoting Acura as a sporty and more affordable alternative to other premium brands. These days Acura is known for leadership in SUVs. Their car line up doesn’t really sell nearly as well. Will this new NSX even register in the minds of those who would buy other Acuras? (Isn't that the purpose of a "halo" car?) The person buying an MDX doesn’t even know they had a car called NSX or what that car meant.

I would say for ½ the price of a new NSX today I could buy a BMW i8- maybe not as fast, but (arguably) better looking, just as interesting technologically, more relevant to its brand...

For me, a supercar that doesn't give you the emotional highs like sound is like a truck that can't go off road at all. You wonder why they even bothered.

 

The NSX is not special like a GT3 or 675LT, but it's very low volume compared to the others. As long as it doesn't get slaughtered in comparos against the 570S, R8 and 911 Turbo (and maybe the Huracan 580-2), prices will probably stay strong for awhile. Maybe not GT3 strong, but certainly stronger than its direct competiton.

I don't know that exclusivity really suits the purposes of the NSX as halo car though. For a halo car for a mainline manufacturer you kind of want there to be enough on the road for people to see them and think about your brand. If the car ends being too much of a unicorn, few will get to see it. It'll be more of an occasion when someone does see one, but again I don't know if that's worth it.

At the very least the NSX will never suffer from having a bunch of them piling up in dealerships because they're made to order.

 

A thing to note is that this is a Honda. The only place it has a different badge slapped on it, is in the US. The Acura badge may mean something in the US, but everywhere else it's a Honda and it will sport a Honda badge. Not sure Honda is known for SUVs. They are mostly known for reliable boring family saloons and the Civic hatchback.

 

That's a very good point. But here is my counter point. This NSX was developed by Honda in the USA to be first and foremost an Acura- hence the Acura styling- most notably the Acura shield grill treatment. The prior car was very much a Honda with an Acura badge put on it for the USA. This time its an Acura that is being marketed elsewhere as a Honda.

I believe the best selling SUV in the USA is the Honda CRV. Acura's sales are about ⅔ SUVs and ⅓ cars...

Don't get me wrong, I like the new NSX. But I don't love it and I wouldn't really compare it to a Ferrari. I'm just not so sure I understand Honda/Acura's mission with the new car and because of that I don't quite have the context in how to properly place it. As a supercar it is not nearly as desirable as the 458. As a green type statement I think the i8 does that better and for less money...

 

If the 458 cant be compared to the NSX, what happens in a few months when the new high end Camaro bests the NSX in a head-head test?

 

don't really see i8 as comparable to nsx, r8, 570, etc. it doesn't have anywhere near the performance. its simply a style, eco statement car that I don't think would be cross shopped in this category

 

The i8 is a horrible piece of crap not worth $50,000 but has lambo doors so they want $150,000. If you've never driven one or have sat in one, go to BMW and do that. J U N K

 

Bmw invited me to a weekend i8 test drive but after wasting hours waiting at dealer for it, they told me wasnt available. Bmw semt me a computer i8 mouse as consolation. Its pretty cool and better than the car

 

People said the same thing about the Audi R8, and now it's probably one of the best selling exotics and praised by just about everyone.

There is room for a halo car like this from just about every manufacturer on Earth and they all have the money and talent to build them if they really want to.

 

If you can sit in it! It's one of the most difficult cars in the world to get in and out of.

 

I think for all the buzz and chatter about this car, it's a bust. I saw one this morning. It's only the second one I've seen in LA. I think they are not selling and instead holding back inventory to force it to be rare.

 

Yes, and it's still pretty ugly.