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  1. Lambocars666

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    The owner (first photo, at the right) should have spent a little bit of money for food also. But him sitting in the car was surely a very spectacular appearance :D :D.
     
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    Haha! Yes, indeed! :D
    Especially after knowing there were not only one... but two Countach LP400 down there at that time (1979)! ;)

    #1120166 & #1120178
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  4. joe sackey

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    Fantastic historic images Victor!
     
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    Loving the Pitts Special too. Very cool.
     
  6. joe sackey

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    Victor, can you share the location & date of these images?

    Thanks!
     
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    Back in the day when the countach was first made.... It must have been a sick feeling to see one ... Even better to own one... It was like a ufo. People still go crazy now when they see one...
     
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    Sure, the caption on the black & white photos says:
    "Countach inside of Kiehl's Pharmacy, New York City, 1976"

    But since we might actually spot another Countach at the bottom-right corner of the first photo, I'm a lil' bit surprised with that 1976 year.
    #1120166 (the LP400 with "megaphone" exhausts) may probably have been there since 1976, originally imported in Canada, December 1975.
    However, I read Aaron Morse of Kiehl's Cosmetics imported his second LP400, #1120178 (with white interior) in January 1979, originally from Canada as well.
    So, who knows... 1976 - 1979...

    Anyways, the color photos, kindly shared by Derek Del Hopkins, were taken in 1979 onwards.
     
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    In a similar vein, this is the cover of Car magazine from January 1978 (the first car magazine I can remember reading, and the one which instilled a lifelong desire to own a Countach S...)

    And the revs keep rising!

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    This is not an S, it's the factory test mule, a LP400 with Wolf wheel arches, we suspect it's #1120112.
     
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    I agree that it's not a production S, but it's effectively the S prototype (on Pirelli P7s) and that's how Mel Nichols refers to it in the magazine. Trust me, I memorised the article at age 11!

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    What shall the S-Prototype be, one of the two wolf LP400 countach or the first real LP400s #1121002 (which did not have a pericopa roof)?
    I have this article as well and one thing I learnt over years: do not trust anything written in Books/Magazines unless it's confirmed also by other sources.
     
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    FWIW, the talented young man behind the wheel extracting that insane speed from the car to the delight of Mel Nichols was none other than Walter Wolf's racing driver Stanislao Sterzel, on loan to the Lamborghini factory by Wolf to help develop the LP400 into the S.

    In fact, in 1976, the year before he went into F1, Wolf campaigned a March 75S in the World Sportscar Series with Stanislao behind the wheel, for his team entered as the "Walter Wolf Canadian Racing Team (WWCRT)".

    Here is Stanislao in the Wolf Racing car at the Nürburgring 300 Kilometers of 1976.

    Sorry for the diversion, carry on gentlemen.
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    Joe,
    hope you don't mind, but it is to mention that Stanislao Sterzel also worked at Lamborghini factory during the early '70s, and after some skills demonstration got the management of "reparto servizio", so probably there was the place where he met Walter Wolf !
     
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    Excellent information, I did not know about his management of the service department, makes sense. Its also possible that Wolf asked Lamborghini to give him a job! IIRC, Wolf's first dealings with Lamborghini were circa 1968 or 1969 when he bought a P400S.

    I do know he was the young man who was tasked with developing the Wolf Countachs at Sant Agata, hence his mention in the Mel Nichiols article.
     
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    In fact it was through Dallara as he had previously been driving the Dallara X1/9. He joined at the end of 1975.
     
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    And Dallara was the Wolf F1 link and responsible for the suspension re-engineering of the Countach S cars for Wolf, so its a circle of characters!
     
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    It's interesting how the story was puzzled.

    Now here's the question.
    Would a Walter Wolf Countach LP400 (or a normal LP400) be faster and more fun to drive than a 25th Anniversary DD?
    Judging from the weight difference and etc it should.
     
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    Sterzel tested the snorkel car for project 118, the Wolf Countach, [he features in that well known team picture with Wolf and Dallara], all the black Countach S development driving, and many kms behind the wheel of Bravo...we have much to thank him for...
     
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    I really think it depends on who is driving and what matters to them.
     
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    My apologies. Some LP400 indeed had it from new!

    Here, on #1120060...
    (photos from February 1975, before delivery)
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    Having looked at a lot of old images, I still don't think that was a standard application for production cars.

    I believe the car in your images was a factory Press/Show car, see non-standard paint application in the NACA ducts and window surrounds, for example.
     
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    #22425 Lambocars666, Mar 21, 2016
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    You're right, I think. Probably not standard.

    About the red car, it is quite certainly #1120060, Rosso Corsa - Tobacco, that went to Lebanon.
    But there were more LP400 with painted NACAs and window surrounds.

    The funny thing is, according to my research, the yellow one could really be #1120062 and the blue one #1120064.
    Interesting how those three VINs follow each other... ;)
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