Hi Everyone not posted for a long time. I have lost the ignition keys to the car. And the car is in storage. (and I cant get to it just now) Does the 1984 Ferrari 400i ignition key barrel have the key codes on the outside rim? Im sure they are not in glove box. These are suggested locations for the key code s from the locksmith. I know the key type code is FT43 as Iv found documents for keys cut when I had the other F400 (Bill Wymans) car. Getting keys cut from the VIN number seems too difficult as Ferrari Uk sold off their earlier records to Tony Willis (The Maranello Concessionaires Archive - I have the sale docs for the car) or destroyed them. Thanks if you can respond quickly. Andrew
My initial response is 'you are f'--d! If this forum solves this problem for you, it would be time for a celebration of the 400 FChat!! Ken
Hi Andrew, I agree with Ken that unless you can locate the code to get more keys cut than it will be difficult - especially with the car in storage. My cars don't have any key codes on the barrels. The following pictures are from a series one 400i but will give you or your locksmith an idea of how it goes together in case you can't locate the key code or old keys. The lock assembly is held in to the steering column by a sheer bolt. This can be undone by using a hammer & centre-punch but would be impossible in the car. The ignition barrel is then held in by a pin that will need to be drilled out that would be very difficult to get at in the car. Removing the steering column may be your best choice. Al Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Thanks for the pictures - it helps. I'm going to try a 'cheap' option of making a 'bump key' which when painted/inserted and jiggled will show the parts to file down to form the key edge. Fingers crossed. Andrew
Andrew If you need it, I have an ignition barrel/lock/key that I acquired a couple of years ago. Aidan
From what I remember, there were 4 Neiman blanks…#2, #4, #6, & #8. Knowing which one is important. If you took a picture of both sides of your original key, then you can send the pics to: Keys4Classics - key cutting issues: keys cut to code & they'll cut the replacement keys to code just from the 2 pics. I'm not positive, but they probably can determine which blank your original ones were but it won't be a Neiman key because they're all but extinct.
That would be a great thing if you could take a high resolution picture of your key and it could be duplicated off of that picture.
Euh... If I have read correctly the starting point of the issue is that the key is lost... Not so easy to take a picture!
I have used Ilco key blanks. They are a very popular brand across many european car makers. Key blank series(re 61f X12) and Taylor blank series (V70E). Both are U.S.A. made. A really skilled professional locksmith can accomplish a new key with the correct road map(the info that I just gave you). Now..having dealt with this lock many times, I have long ago elected to bi-pass the ridiculous set-up and install a garden variety ignition switch on the console. Also....Never Never Never break off the shear pin (screw) theft prevention lock for all of the obvious (by now) reasons. I hope that this of some value to someone. Thank you. Jq.
That's what they instruct you to do cause those codes from Ferrari are long gone, I imagine. So I took pics from my phone & that was good enough for them to determine the code. I only got one key with my car (who only gets one key?! I know it happens) so I 'immediately' sourced the Neiman blanks & sent them off to them, & they're cut job was dead nuts (spot on, etc.). It would be prudent for everyone to take note here & now, & shoot a couple of pics of your key/keys, especially if you only have one! Or else, you'll have to go the Aidan Parte route, Ferrari-style ($$$). If I'm not mistaken, that's the blank they use if you don't send them Neimans. Uh Oh, sounds like that's what happen to you
