2016 FORMULA 1 PIRELLI CHINESE GRAND PRIX RACE *** SPOILERS ***

I think he regretted taking Kimi out, more than anything. I agree with whoever posted that Kvyat didn't crash...Vettel did. I think Seb just had a red mist moment after the race.

No way was Kvyat responsible for anything but racing...

 

Imho was kimi's fault who was all over the shop after almost crashing into Nico on the first corner, and Nico was to blame too for his brake test so reminiscent of the battles between him and Hammo

 

Wow! - I seriously can't believe what a defeatist attitude you have! (Cue the: "I'm a realist not a defeatist!" post!).

Issues such as those that have struck Hamilton so far this season could just as easily hit Rosberg in coming races! - In F1, nothing is guaranteed after 3 races!

Rosberg has now won 6 races in a row (3 from last season and 3 from this season) and currently leads Hamilton 75pts to 36pts.

If Hamilton matches that feat in the next 6 races and Rosberg comes 2nd each time, then by the time of the British Grand Prix in July, by My calculations, Hamilton would then lead Rosberg 186pts to 183pts, and lets be honest here, Hamilton is capable of winning 6 races in a row!

For race wins alone, with 18 races left to go there's still 450 points up for grabs! It's a long old season this year, and anything can happen in a race (as demonstrated By Alonso in Melbourne!).

You can write off Hamilton already if you like, but I won't, because having watched F1 for the last 37 years, I've learnt that you can't take anything for granted, and it's not over until the Maths says it's over!

 

In other news I might win my bet with tifosi12 that on the last year of Ham and Ros being teammates Rosberg would score more points because of Hamilton losing interest or starting to think there's a conspiracy against him.

 

Interesting bet!

 

Things are looking up...first race both Fcars finished in the points.

In fact ALL THE CARS FINISHED THE RACE! When was the last time that happened?

 

Here is my issue.

1) I think the fix is in for Nico at Mercedes this year after last year. In fact, the fix started last year after Hamilton wrapped it up.

2) Mercedes is completely sandbagging this car. Every race people say "Ferrari is getting closer to challenging them!" and then just when the need it in qualy, Mercedes seem find an extra half a second over there rivals. Why are they sandbagging? To keep eyeballs watching by keeping up the specter of drama.

The season is over. The race now is to see who is number 2.

 

Sorry Seb,you screwed it up big time just apologize to Danny and Kimi and move on.

 

The thing is, last race it was Bottas running down the inside; Ham smashed straight into him, and *Bottas* got the penalty (and points).

I suspect Vettel is thinking he should have hit Danny instead of Kimi.

But when the officiating isn't consistent, how does a driver make the call?

Should they just figure that the penalty will never go against a "most favored" team?

 

Read the thread, most here have assigned blame for the incident on Vettel. Furthermore, the podium room confrontation was not classy and Vettel was criticised for that too by multiple people. What more do you expect?

It seems that, upon reflection, Vettel now has a different opinion of the incident:

https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/headlines/2016/4/vettel-diffuses-kvyat-row.html​

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Yah I'm agreeing with this. If Seb did it to Kyvat we'd all be talking today about what a great pass it was.

Kyvat did not hit Seb. Seb didn't see him coming and was trapped but also hit Kimi in the process. It's racing. It's not tiddly winks.

I have a really easy solution to the problem

QUALIFY BETTER and stop whining why you don't.

 

Publicly Mercedes are not crowning Nico just yet - Toto Wolff: Lewis Hamilton will close gap on Nico Rosberg in F1 title race | F1 News

 

"the SHOW must go on!"

 

It's all about showmanship. The WDC and WCC is definitely over.

 

Something I have said since day one of the Hamilton-Rosberg pair: As soon as they have races in traffic, having to fight for position during the race, Hamilton will not be a match. He wants with the head through the wall in each single event. Rosberg is racing much more with his brains. He pulls less of the stunning move type, but creates much less carnage.

Bottas-crash: I claim it would not have happened to Rosberg.
China-start-mess: Would certainly not have happened to Rosberg.

So, no. This was Hamilton's doing. But of course, a series of bad luck can strike anyone and balance the sheets soon.

I don't know. In Bahrain Rosberg was open about having been bored to death. In China he said he was pretty much pushing to maintain the gap. Thinking about it, he might have been given a hiding for his Barhain statement. The gap in China was almost big enough to change the PU.

 

Whenever they fight for position Hamilton always comes out on top... Qualified second so many times in 2014 and 2015 and always passed Rosberg and won. I still don't think Rosberg has ever passed Hamilton on track or undercut him unless he had car problems.

Both of the crashes you reference were categorically the fault of the other driver. How can you just say they wouldn't happen to Rosberg? Where is the reasoning for such a baseless statement. Bottas ran into the side of Hamilton and took a penalty for it. Nasr swerved directly into Hamilton because of Kimi who came onto the track when it wasn't safe to do so. And this was all a knock on effect from Vettel who had poor race craft and tailgated his team mate instead of braking...and then had the audacity to blame poor kyvat.

So many people thinking the season is over and it's race three. Woah. How about this my dear maulaf....we are both unsubscribed users here - if Rosberg wins the title I'll buy you a year silver subscription and if Hamilton wins you buy me one. If you're gonna think these crazy things I want to see if you truly believe it

 

I just have a question to all those who say Vettel had poor race craft and caused the collision: once Kvyat was next to him, what option were left to him?

a) turning right into Kvyat taking him out
b) turning left into Raikkonen taking him out
c) keeping straight and breaking hard to avoid both of them having one of 15 cars of the pack behind him rear-end him...

So Vettels fate was sealed as soon as Kvyat made the move.
By the way Raikkonens fate was sealed as well as either Vettel takes him out or he would have been exactly at the line Kvyat took on the end of the turn having Kvyat crash into him.

So yes: Kvyat had no crash because Vettel tried to avoid him and pushed Raikkonen out of his way...But still Kvayt was the reason for the crash as there was no scenario without a crash after his move. And this is what Vettel told him on the podium: he was lucky that Vettel made the wrong decision for the Scuderia instead of running over him ending his race in the second corner...

But still Vettel is called whiner driving bumper car missing race craft....At the same time Hamilton did not do anything to avoid a crash against Bottas two weeks ago and is called victim...I like that this forum became so reasonable after all the bans

 

--While assessing where any blame lies, it's worth nothing the stewards took no action. In fact, they didn't even consider it worthy of investigation. So, in their opinion, it was very much a racing incident.-- Sebastian Vettel & Daniil Kvyat tangle at Chinese Grand Prix - BBC Sport

 

Ah mr singhof welcome back. Drivers are situationally aware and expect people to brake as cars often do especially in the first and second corner melee. No one expects huge lateral movements and side swiping an opponent. And there is no way to stop that if someone turns right into you you are screwed completely. If someone brakes you have more chance to avoid it. Not to mention Kimi was much closer to him than the car behind so it was a no Brainer to brake out of it

Hamilton was not the aggressor Bottas drove into him as he took the corner. Vettel was the aggressor be turned into his team mate. Chalk and cheese

 

Sounds like your racecraft is excellent. What do you race?

 

A "racing incident" is a bit of a misnomer because although it apportions no "legal liability" for the crash (if you can describe it as such) it does not mean that one party is not at fault. You can be at fault for something but if it's still within the ambit of racing incident you get off

 

Lawnmowers

 

No he was not, he was the one that had to react, not to act...

 

Racing incident is "no fault"....evidently by default it would appear.

 

Interesting....you should retire from racing and become a steward.