2016 FORMULA 1 PIRELLI CHINESE GRAND PRIX RACE *** SPOILERS ***

"Oh STFU!".

 

End of the day the Kimi/Seb/Kyvat incident was just a racing incident......I loved Seb's passion at the end of the race and also appreciated the response from the young Russian. They both have balls and race craft. Kyvat's "cool head" and aggressive driving might just put him in a red car some day. Correct me if wrong but, have we ever heard him whine about anything? Appears to be a solid kid.

 

I suspect it's covered under number 13 of allowed messages:

13. "Helping with warning of traffic and gaps to other competitors during a practice session or race."

It doesn't specify whether the competitor has to actually be on the circuit or not, and it doesn't rule out counting a team mate as a competitor, so they could easily use it to tell him he's too close to Perez in the pit-lane.

By the same token, he may just have spotted Perez going into the pit-lane further up ahead, and worked it out by himself.

It was interesting to see how Seb knew he could still overtake in the pit-lane - Jenson Button said in an interview after the race: "I came into the pit-lane and the cars were going slowly, then suddenly Sebastian overtakes the cars ahead of him! That took me by surprise - I didn't even know that rule existed!"

 

Errrr: "Blue f:censored:king flags!" during the race when he was stuck behind a Renault!

(I do take your point though! )

 

Fair point, pretty sure everyone on the grid has felt that way some point about the Renault!

 

Including the Renault drivers in China!

 

Apparently you don't, thanks Peter!

All the best,
Andrew.

 

ROFLMAO!

 

So can we agree it was Hamilton's fault for the Kimi/Vettel/Kvyat incident??

 

Nice one ...

 

lol well of course!

 

Hahaha.... Never thought of it like that.... But now that you mention it

 

....

 

I said seeeeeems to be .....then again, I suppose I should keep that appointment with my psychiatrist.

 

Williams finally fastest at something
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Agree. Kimi drove like a fool into that first corner and compromised the team. You could see Vettel was trying to make room for his team mate and then Kvyat came zooming through (as he should because this is supposed to be racing - Bernie, please take note), and then Kimi came dancing back in an attempt to find a racing line again.

Vettel was never at fault IMO. Nobody though should be punished, it is racing!!
Pete
ps: Far more amusing watching LH lose his front wing because he was too impatient ... lol

 

Bigger lol at a Hamilton hater trying to blame Lewis! Lewis was keeping his nose clean, so to speak, not doing anything aggressive or impatient, then Kimi comes diving back on to the track a second time. Nasr swerves abruptly over into Hamilton, who was leaving room for Nasr on the outside... and it's Hamilton's fault? Unbelievable.

 

Yes. It's the drivers who are behind him who are responsible for their own driving. It's not Seb's responsibility for what goes on back there. I hardly think Seb was worried about someone hitting him from behind at the time HE HIT KIMI.

 

Good man...you got it in one. You should have removed the "?" though. I did it for you lol

 

GordonC and TurnCoat (Aircon)

Yeah yeah ... still amusing for me.
Pete

 

If you take the road laws into account, yes Seb hit Kimi ... but if you look at what actually happened, you will remember that Kimi was out of control and sliding back on to the track right in front of his team mate.

The facts are that Kimi entered the corner too fast and started the drama. End of story.
Pete

 

Great to see that they've raised their game. Pit stops last season were a notable weakness.

 

After replaying it over and over last night. It's pretty obvious... if you choose to assign blame... that it's:

1) Kimi - locking up, out of control, and coming across Seb
2) Daniil - racing up the inside at a speed he couldn't possibly take through the turn.
3) Seb - Looks like innocent bystander to me... can't go right, left, or brake hard.

Still, these things happen when you're going close to 200mph then slam on your brakes to go 50mph to make a decreasing radius turn with changing elevation surrounded by other open wheel cars doing the same crap driven by people of varying skill and experience who all have the same need to win.

 

Finally got the chance to see the race. Had a small snafu with Vodafone ES leading me to cancel all my contracts with them. Had internet installed last week monday, so a man comes wednesday but quite quickly says '' should have gotten Movistar...much better for this area''. nearing the end of the day, still no net so I phone them up. The man says ''no, it'll take up until friday for the internet to activate. If not by midday, phone again''. Of course, Friday comes and still no internet. I phone again, the man says I have to wait until Monday for it to be activated, since it can't be done during the weekend. ''But it's 12pm now. What about the remaining 6 hours of the day? Can't someone press the button so I have internet?'' Apparently not. And, faster internet would arrive by months end too, but apparently that will take at least 3 months. Annoyed, I drove over to nearest Movistar shop and told them I need internet. All hope was lost for the weekend anyhow, but every day I saved the quicker I would get internet. Fibra Optica ordered, it'll take up to 5 working days. Read about the quali and was now highly excited to see the race. Sid (Daytona355) very kindly once again offered for me to use his Skybox. I go down to the shops again and sort out a Vodafone mobile contract so I'll have enough data to watch the race, as Vodafone at least has decent cell coverage. No problem. Wait all day for it to be activated...no luck. On the phone again. Pablo says wait till monday. FFS. Monday comes and I phone again. Already made my mind up regarding internet, but wouldn't hurt for a few days I reckon. Now they tell me to wait 21 days. I tell them to immediately cancel all contracts, imagining myself finding out who runs vodafone ES, and piss in his pockets. Hang up the phone and moments later I get another call. It's Movistar. Tomorrow a man will come to connect the internet. Sure. An hour later, 2 men arrive from Movistar. As preperations. What?! The men came back today and internet has been connected. 300mbs download and 50mbs upload, 15ms ping. Chuffed.


Onto equally important matters:

WHAT A RACE!!!!

Vettel was just unlucky there, a light lockup from Kimi who then tightened his line (Which would have been easily possible), but with Kvyat seeing a gap large enough for a Red Bull and then some, he nailed the throttle and rightfully took his place. This left Vettel in a bad spot, he was going to crash into someone, and that someone was Kimi. Nothing wrong with Kimi's move, no chance he could see up his mirrors that Kvyat was suddenly beside Vettel, who would otherwise have made his line tighter and no problem would have been there.

Ricciardo, excellent start, desperately unlucky. What a stunning recovery.

Rosberg drove faultless, Mercedes still not that great on starts and on the less grippy tire he lost a place. A slight miss hap near the end of the race but he was so far in front it was never going to be an issue.

Hamilton for once unlucky by collecting the Sauber, Strategy helping out with getting rid of all tires. Thought Mercedes did brilliant there stategy wise (and they did), and Ferrari screwed up again (in a way, they did, as I don't think they got rid of all the tires just yet?).

Kimi drove a calm and calculating recovering race, and halfway through when Hamilton made another stop I couldn't believe my eyes when Ferrari never covered him off. When Kimi finally did stop he was obviously miles behind Ham, but now Kimi really got his head down and not only overtook him, but drove away from him AND kept his tires in check. Great, great drive.

Verstappen, not sure what happened at the start but presumably he got caught up with all the small incidents and just dropped a few places. Sainz up to 5th or something? Didn't hear him on the radio, no moaning about being held up in the pitlane, did his talking on the track and outraced Sainz and if he had an extra lap, would've ruined Hamiltons day some more.

Back to the Ferrari's...Vettel was brilliantly awake and did things most others wouldn't have thought about so quickly entering the pitlane, and nailed 2 cars driving slowly. He was understandably angry at Kvyat, from his point of view. Surely once he's seen teh footage he'll realize Kvyat did the right thing.

I'm sure at some point Kimi's luck will turn. Hopefully he'll still be racing in F1 when that happens, though. Or perhaps we'll read about him going on a family holiday and his plane broke down, which led him to take the car, in which he got a flat tire but no one near stocked a tire the size his car takes, so when a tire does arrive 2 days later and it's finally on, his engine dies 50km later.

Ricciardo driver of the day for me. Actually, make that driver of the weekend. Rosberg did all the right things, but he hardly had to work for it (actually, he didn't. Put car on pole, easy. No Hamilton to challenge. Lose a place at the start, regain it because exploding tires. drive the next 55 laps, collect trophy, go home).

Props to Kvyat too. He needed a podium, did the right things, and when an angry Vettel questioned him, he held his own. Good lad.

Am thoroughly pleased that Red Bull have a decent engine, based on the Renault. Yes they seemed like spoiled kids for 2015 and the best part of 2014, but they use the same basic engine as renault now, and with all their own ancillaries are beating Renault at their own game. Which is mighty impressive.

 

No flashbacks of being back down here?