Would like to gather some ideas how to save weight in the F12. 1. Swap battery with e.g. liteblox = - 50lbs 2. Carbon where available $$$ 3. ...
I cant imagine there is much left to save after the above is done. Stiffer NR lowering springs would make the car faster around the track due to less body roll...me thinks
Im not sure I would do any of the above. The jury on the battery debate is still out. Meaningful weight savings with carbon are likely to be difficult to execute. Hire a carbon expert to make a one off F12 tub with one off carbon doors? Then try to refit everything ? You will need to redesign the the entire interior too.
With carbon I meant the stock parts that were available but one did not spec in the car. I do not want to suffer in the usability area, the F12 is my daily driver and Kindergarten commuter. Just wondered if other parts are available like the battery that saves some real weight. Does not seem so besides exhaust.
because when doing the school run it's important to know your car is 10 pounds lighter than the other kindergarten parents' f12. Perhaps never fill up the tank more than 1/4 gas is heavy.
Perhaps hire a professional driver? He or she could shave a few tenths off your times to the kindergarten school or at nordschleif.
I'm going to say don't bother. The F12 is so overpowered, I have almost 40,000 km on mine. I can't possibly imagine 100 pounds of weight either way is going to make the slightest difference with everyday use.
I'm sorry but you're a selfish person to remove the cat. Big thumbs Down! We should respect the laws and the environment (Before you get offended, explain to your child why you are above the law and how it is ok for you to harm the environment)
Where do you draw the line? We shouldn't even be driving these cars if the environment was the only consideration. Just because it's not illegal doesn't mean that 9mpg car is good for the environment..... This guys not a criminal for the suggestion. Race cars don't have cats. I burn more fuel on the racetrack than I do on the street in some cars. So it's okay to run on the track with a track car but not on the streets? Again I'm just trying to find the line as the law is one thing and your concern for the environment is another. However they don't work together.
Please think before you post such a ridiculous position. The laws exist for reasons. If you think that the law is wrong then change the law. Otherwise you are breaking the law. Race cars and sports cars are two different things. Let me ask you a question. Why don't we get rid of catalytic converters altogether. Our cars would be faster and a little lighter by a few pounds!
TBH if it were me I would just do the wheels and exhaust, maybe a L-ion battery and some carbon but anything more than that and you will take away the car's integrity. F12 was built as a ludicrously fast GT with sensational track capabilities and handling. Don't make her something that she's not IMHO.
This makes little sense, it's apples and oranges. The line is clear, race cars don't need to run them, street cars do - and I believe street cars on race tracks do as well. Just because you burn a ton of fuel on the track with your street car, does not mean that you're entitled to go catless and run your car for shorter periods of time. I like fast and loud cars, but I don't like the smell of a de-catted car. It's not a race car smell, it's an old car smell. Race fuel smells nice, street fuel nowhere near it. As Malibu Guy said, what makes it ok for you? No matter what the rules of the track are, they are not the same for the street. If that where the case, we could build and modify our cars so they were nothing but super fast death traps to run on public roads. And while I'm no environmentalist or eco-maniac, I don't see why I should have to breathe your smog when you're clearly not allowed to put it out. Besides, you would have to run a heck of a lot of fuel with cats on the track to make up for running catless on the street. Catalytic converters remove a huge amount of pollution - it's not only about CO2 emissions.
Stock F12 weighs 4000 lbs give or take. IMO don't waste time and money trying to create a light weight car, it's not gonna happen. Buy an Alfa 4C or a Mazda Miata for the days you want a light weight blast down winding back roads - lots cheaper than doing anything to an F12, except driving with 1/4 tank of gas as mentioned...
Does anyone on here have the novitec or another brand of stiffer springs? I want to know if it severely damages the ride quality? I put about 12,000km yearly on my F12. I don't like the bodyroll..
-100 cell cat and titanium or inconel exhaust -lithium battery -Proper bucket seats, even if you already have the ''racing'' seats (see pic). Weight 5,9kg per seat, standard racing seat is what, 16kg? Wouldn't bother with the ferrari carbon if your target is weight saving. Not that much to be saved over some non structural trim pieces anyhow...Proper dry carbon will cost $$ (though if you have no carbon, getting the interior trim done in proper dry carbon will cost the same if not less than buying carbon trim from Ferrari straight...). Even so, I expect only a handful of kg will be saved going with proper dry carbon over standard trim. What are your feelings towards catless F40's? Image Unavailable, Please Login
The biggest container ships, that might've shipped the F12 to the US, use about 320.000 ltr. of heavy oil fuel a day. And oil fuel is about x times more polluting than rel. clean regular fuel. The internet tells me that 1 mega container vessel is just as polluting as 50 million cars. Although I'm in favor of less pollution, leading by example, yada yada, I'd say don't get too carried away on the environmental thing.
