2016 FORMULA 1 RUSSIAN GRAND PRIX: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

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Rosberg is definitely on a roll these past few months with 4 wins on a row. I can almost smell his teammate Hamilton's frustrations. Must have been under extreme pressure to catch up..

 

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hamilton with ZERO water pressure for the last 16 laps lol

 

what else would they say?

 

Sensor fail....the tech you know...so complex and mind boggling...

 

If the car had no water pressure it would seize the engine within a lap.

 

would it? No idea.....but zero pressure would HAVE to be a pretty significant issue

 

Incidentally I've got the 2006 Turkish GP on and Rosberg got a radio ''box the car, slow down immediately. We have no water pressure''.

Car was done for by the end of the lap cruising back to pit.

 

Counting last year, now seven consecutive victories in a row.

The 4th Driver to achieve this in F1 history, the others being:-

Sebastian Vettel - 9 wins
Alberto Ascari - 7 wins
Michael Schumacher - 7 wins

 

Who cares.....both cars should burn (withouit the drivers...hummm,hammy could get his hair roasted) to the ground next race!!!

 

From my understanding, a former f1 driver mentioned it after the Sochi race, an f1 cars water is always under pressure.

Unlike a regular car which is not under pressure when it's cold that. Hence you can take the radiator cap off when it's cold.

An f1 engine is logically speaking, even more pressurized considering it's tremendous heat buildup. Plus they can't even start an f1 engine when it's cold. It needs pre-warming.

No pressure can only mean a leak, or when they consider a certain baseline as "zero or no pressure". It's a closed system.

16 laps in an f1 car, after it already did 36 laps, "without" pressure meaning no or limited flow, sounds ridiculous. Then you would expect it to heat up very quickly, but that just would cause more pressure.

But maybe someone with a mechanical background can give some insight.

 

My thoughts as well.

Everything in an f1 engine is engineered to max performance, but a Mercedes f1 engine can function 16 laps without any water pressure ? and even without dropping back, with similar laptimes as Kimi's Ferrari ?

Doesn't sound logical.

 

Kimi closed from 26 secs behind to only 7 by the end of the race. Hamilton dropped off big time. He went from 7 secs behind Rosberg to, I think, 40 secs?

 

Ferrari has just had bad luck so far this year. They have had the potential but failures and bad calls from the pit crew and pit stop delays (Australia), and subsequent failures and accidents beyond their control have scuppered their chances. Just imagine if Hamilton's engine really ran without water pressure for 18 laps and it failed like it normally should have, then at the very least Kimi would have had a well deserved 2nd and Bottas a well deserved 3rd. A lot of winning and scoring comes down to luck (or not having it). Hamilton complained about his car on the podium but he is super lucky to have got there.


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Just checked, from 7 sec. to 25 seconds behind Rosberg.

Still it sounds very strange.

 

As NJB13 said in post #315, perhaps a coded message to ease up on the throttle and save fuel.

 

With my limited mechanical understanding, the above can be the only logical explanation, if it really happened like Merc. says it did.

Good call. Probably it.

 

The 'no water pressure' story from Bernie's site;

https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/headlines/2016/5/f1-mercedes-no-idea-how-hamilton-finished-russia.html

The above is an edited version of the full story on their own site;

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For some reason I can't C&P from there, but it's a pretty interesting read on what happened to both of them (Nico's MGU-K and LH's lack of water pressure.)

I tend agree with others, zero water pressure seems like a long shot. If it was a sensor failure why didnt they just say so?

Also interesting that they asked Charlie for permission to contact them about their problems. Vague bells are ringing that Charlie's boys can access the same telemetry data as the guys on the wall. I'm not a 100% sure, but that he granted permission suggests it may not be complete BS.

Cheers,
Ian

 

Fastest lap on safe mode huh. Yeah nobody else stands a chance.

 

...or simply to back up.

He was second and under no circumstances it would have been possible to get in front of Rosberg unless Nico made a huge mistake...Rosberg was able to manage the gap and safe tyres and fuel and with his fastest lap at the end he clearly showed that he could have gone quicker if needed at any time.

As there was no danger from behind Hamilton had nothing to win by stressing his engine. So instead of chasing 7 points with barely hope of success he safed 18 points on an engine that was already suspicious.

Hamilton had some bad luck in the last races but not "really bad luck". None of the races was a DNF and he always could collect points. Just one or two DNF of Rosberg and he is back in business. So there was no reason to chase these few points at this point of the championship risking an engine that might be needed at the end of the season, drivers like Prost most likely would have known that but Hamilton obviously must be told so by the team...Some might say that it is good that he always tries to win but under some circumstances it is just more clever to play safe and look at the bigger picture....

 

Rosbergs car was fixed near the end because they changed into another mode. I don't think "safe mode" was meant to infer a mode of any less power output

 

Of course a safe mode has less power. Otherwise it would just be "normal" mode. Do you think at other times in the race they operate a more arduous mode for the engine that delivers no additional power output over the safe mode?

All the best,
Andrew.

 

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