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  1. 24000rpm

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    #1 24000rpm, May 24, 2016
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    so on the driver side, there's a concave area for a plastic sticker(arrowed).
    So obvsiouly the sticker isn't easy to reproduce while the concave is.

    Shall I make the mold to include this concave or shall I just make it flat? since its on the bottom of the mirror, it won't be easily seen anyways.....
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  2. Jason Crandall

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    #2 Jason Crandall, May 24, 2016
    If these are to put on your 360 then why does authenticity matter?

    Anyone with a CS will order the real thing regardless of cost.
     
  3. Gated

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    #3 Gated, May 24, 2016
    Without. Will be cleaner.
     
  4. slracing

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    #4 slracing, May 24, 2016
    How about using a 3D scanner- and make a complete replica
    CS mirror set? ;-) I bet you could sell lots of those.
     
  5. 24000rpm

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    #5 24000rpm, May 24, 2016
    i frankly have no idea what a 3d printer is, nor do I know how it works.....
    I only know my new acquaintance in china is able to do carbon fiber molds
    so.....

     
  6. 24000rpm

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    #6 24000rpm, May 24, 2016
    um.... its hard to say
    there are 2 schools of CS anthenticity
    1. vin matters, if the vin is a CS vin, then it is a CS
    2. a car is made of its parts, if all parts are cs parts, then it is a CS, regardless of vin

    so I might be in the 2nd school

    i've already made a few CS parts myself , with the help of my friend. Now on to the mirrors

     
  7. 24000rpm

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  8. Jason Crandall

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    #8 Jason Crandall, May 24, 2016
    That's not true at all. Even a real CS without it's original parts takes a ding on value. That's how Ferrari sells Classiche.

    Also, this reproduction mirror isn't a CS part.
     
  9. Kevin Rev'n

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    #9 Kevin Rev'n, May 24, 2016
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    I am surprised it's not easy to tell how to get it out of there.

    The 360 CS part is: 65889400 OUTSIDE THERMOMETER
    The 360 part is: 65889400 OUTSIDE THERMOMETER

    It looks like it (#59) is made up of two parts. It doesn't unscrew?

    Oh and I would pass on the depression in the housing. You can hear a CS whistle when they are coasting by and I think it's because of the vortex created by this impression stamp! LOL /jk
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  10. 24000rpm

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    #10 24000rpm, May 24, 2016
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    like this

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  11. Kevin Rev'n

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    #11 Kevin Rev'n, May 24, 2016
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    Thanks, I deleted my question since I found the picture in my files! That company is difficult to research. It would be great if they sold replacement parts!
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  12. Kevin Rev'n

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  13. 24000rpm

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    #13 24000rpm, May 24, 2016
    I am going out on a limb to say its press fit....
    but the thing is old and fragile....

     
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    #14 stevecomp, May 24, 2016
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    They are press fit, I have been working my own CS style mirror for my two cars for some time now.
    I have all the parts including the pivot units both right and left sides, that was the hard part to get right, OEM spec heated mirrors and my own carbon housing. I just need time to finish them off.
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  16. 24000rpm

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    #16 24000rpm, May 24, 2016
    steve, does the inside of your reproduction mirror have the exact shape as the OEM?

     
  17. stevecomp

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    #17 stevecomp, May 25, 2016
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    No way would not let anybody mould from OEM CS mirrors that is just crazy they are way to exspensive to do that.
    I have a hand held 3D scanner it would only take 15 minutes to scan. PM me I'm in Australia
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    #18 stevecomp, May 25, 2016
    I'll say they are close and leave it at that. It's my own take on a CS mirror only made better.
    CS carbon is years old now and I hate 90gsm carbon no skill in making parts with that size twill.
     
  19. Julian Thompson

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    #19 Julian Thompson, May 25, 2016
    I have a pair of original CS mirrors here I've just had a look at them. I think if you're making pattern replica parts they should be exactly the same, including the moulding. Might look cleaner without but they're more charming as replica's with.
     
  20. evo3

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    #20 evo3, May 25, 2016
    I am also for without.
    As soon as you anyway creat a replica, why not doing better?
     
  21. stevecomp

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    #21 stevecomp, May 25, 2016
    Replica on a 360 is fine they would still be exspensive to make if made correctly.
     
  22. rmarchjr

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    #22 rmarchjr, May 25, 2016
    I would say make it with. Your going to the trouble of making a mould, it is not a part that needs improvement, just a reasonable price and availability. It's something most people appreciate -when they cannot tell the difference between them. IMHO

    The stone carbon mirrors (non hinged) are fragile and low quality. It would be nice to have another option.
     
  23. 24000rpm

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    #23 24000rpm, May 25, 2016
    how would you tell the quality of one carbon fiber non-critical parts like the mirror
    from another?

     
  24. stevecomp

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    #24 stevecomp, May 25, 2016
    Hit it see if it breaks :)

    I only make pre preg carbon autoclave cured parts, I can spot a non-autoclave part a mile away just by looking at it, vacuum only is next best after that it's a poor cousin walk away.
     
  25. rmarchjr

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    #25 rmarchjr, May 25, 2016
    1. How the two parts fit together. And how they fit to the door frame.
    2. Rigidly
    3. How they hold up over time.
    4. Mirrors are/are not convex.
    5. Resistance to sunlight & heat
     
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