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Discussion in '348/355' started by 97spiderman, May 29, 2016.

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  1. 97spiderman

    97spiderman Karting

    Dec 15, 2008
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    Is a Ferrari purchase ever a responsible move?
     
  2. dapper

    dapper Formula Junior

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    Man you're over thinking this, surely you need to get out more!
     
  3. Jackie and bill

    Jackie and bill Formula Junior

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    Yes, and no :)
     
  4. DavidLMcAfee

    DavidLMcAfee Formula Junior

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    Maybe?
     
  5. Wade

    Wade Three Time F1 World Champ
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    When it's eventual outcome (perceived, predicted or otherwise), including total cost of ownership, surpasses the same initial $ value of actual "money in the bank".

    But then, only a Midas-type individual would use that as the primary justification/motivation.
     
  6. Dave rocks

    Dave rocks F1 World Champ
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    John, last week you talked yourself out of a Ferrari and now you are circling back looking for rationale. A Ferrari is like an annoying hot woman that drives you nuts but you just can't get enough of.

    It's not responsible. It's not logical. But owning 1 or more is pure enjoyment that can only come from an Italian :)
     
  7. SoCal1

    SoCal1 F1 Veteran
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    Its a car

    Just another bucket of bolts and plastic
     
  8. PhilB

    PhilB Formula 3
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    Obviously, you need to weigh this decision like any other against your own personal situation. But to over think it - one can say buying any car isn't rational, after all you could walk to work or take the bus.

    On the other hand, drive a 355, then ask yourself how irresponsible you've been waiting this long to get one.
     
  9. 97 Spider

    97 Spider Formula 3

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    I know.. Off topic, but really? Only if you live in a metro area. Believe it or not a very large portion American people do not live in cities that have public transportation or it's a short walk to a corner store.
    I live in rural Montana and owning a 4x4 pickup is a responsible thing to do. Without one you could be risking you and your families life.
     
  10. SoCal1

    SoCal1 F1 Veteran
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    UBER here in LA
     
  11. INTMD8

    INTMD8 F1 Veteran
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    Sure, if you're deciding between a Ferrari or $100k in heroin the Ferrari is a very responsible move :D
     
  12. JohnsonsMedia

    JohnsonsMedia Formula Junior

    Sep 14, 2009
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    what price do you put on fun? I would buy mine again in a heart beat. Worth every penny that i paid for it and every penny i have put into it.
     
  13. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yes agreed but it can be totally logical. It is all about risk. In order to risk you have to have some depth in your pocket to recover if the deal goes bad. You see a ferrari well maintained holds value better than any other car brand. You buy a $70k 355 drive it for a year it is probably still worth 70k or if lucky appreciates. You buy a $50k 355 well bought and put in the sweat equity, drive it for a year and sell it for 70k you make money. You buy a new $70k bmw or a generic porsche and in one year is it only worth 60k if lucky! You turn your 348 into a race car, enjoy the heck out of it, sell off all the parts that don't make the car faster and your entry fee to race a ferrari costs less than racing a corvette! I actually did that. The 348 was cheap racing. I spend crazy money racing the corvette. So...irrationalpurchase??? Hardly. If done with knowledge and forethought ferrari buying can be a financially smart thing. Go out and buy a ferrari. On their deathbed no one ever regrets driving a ferrari.
     
  14. KMR968Turbo

    KMR968Turbo Formula 3

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    Even if it's the Ferrari that put you on your deathbed? ;)
     
  15. Wade

    Wade Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Ferraris don't kill people...
     
  16. GerryD

    GerryD Formula 3

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    If you have to ask then don't. Those who buy these cars are in love from the get go.
     
  17. 05011994

    05011994 Formula 3
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    Last time I checked hearses do not have luggage racks, when you are on your deathbed will you be thanking God you did not buy a F355 or will you remember all of the great times. Life is short, do it, if it is not for you then sell it, you should not get hurt much. Waiting for the perfect time will result in never doing it, the road to nowhere is paved with sometime.

    Forza 355!
     
  18. skierlawyer

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    Sometime the biggest waste of money is not spending it.
     
  19. Lionworks Auto

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    It's about value. Always is. What's the emotional value that you gain from driving an effin Toyota something every day. Very little. Totally pragmatic. What's the emotional value you gain from doing same in a and F car? Incomparable.
     
  20. ///Mike

    ///Mike F1 Veteran

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    ^^^This. Exactly.
     
  21. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    Sure, just imagine that you happen to have $1,000,000 that won't fit into your bank account. The Ferrari dealer can keep your banker happy, himself happy, and you have a considerably lighter wallet--so you are happy too.
     
  22. vvassallo

    vvassallo F1 Veteran

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    If you happen to have bought a model just before a stupendous market rise, then, yes. FBB bought a very inexpensive 550 years ago and sold it prior to the increase, but managed to buy another at a depressed price and has probably made millions on it. ;)

    Imagine buying a TR, any TR, 2 years ago, how well you would have done. My friend Greg managed to buy a 308 Vetro for a song and we witnessed one selling in Scottsdale for over $300K. These kind of increases validate a purchase from an investment standpoint. For me, my 348SS was worth the price no matter what it is valued at. Don't care, not interested in a sale. I had the money to buy and maintain it. There is no substitute for its ownership experience. There is no substitute for all the wonderful people I have met in the Ferrari community, I am not just talking Stooges here. All the experiences and relationships were well worth the $42K I paid for my car.
     
  23. phrogs

    phrogs F1 Veteran
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    thats a lot of heroin.
     
  24. 97spiderman

    97spiderman Karting

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    Thanks for the replies, this is a great forum. Personally I am good with our current fleet from all pespectives, but the charm of the 355 has me in it's grasp. The $$ is scaring me, but my kids don't need the cash either, so perhaps "sliding in sideways" is the answer.

    thanks again to all
     
  25. 166&456

    166&456 Formula 3

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    I have yet to meet a non-responsible Ferrari owner!
     

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