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  1. itsablurr

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    #1 itsablurr, Jun 9, 2016
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    Has anyone re-dyed the long woven intake flex hoses in the engine bay? Looking for any suggestions or experience that others may have had with dye media that penetrates and holds well to restore to an as-new look, versus ponying up $250ea. After years of exposure to heat and indirect sun through the engine lid slats, they do end up a bit faded, and a fresh deep black would look much better against refinished heat shielding, airbox, etc.
     
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    I replaced my hoses with silicone hoses. They are smooth. To make them look stock I wrapped them with black medical wrapping tape and then coated with the rubberized handle grip. You could just get the rubberized coating and paint them with that. One buys it at the hardware store called tool grip or such. Andy
     
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    It looks like the same material is also used in some intake applications on Mini Coopers, and is described as an exterior rubberized fabric (nomex?) hose. I wonder if Forever Black would be suitable in restoring a fresh look to the rubberized hose sections. May have to give it a try.

    Do you have any photos of the end result? My primary concern is preserving the exact OE look.
     
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    I was going to spray mine with the seat dye they sell in a spray can at the autoparts store...

    Should look just fine. My other thought was to goto a crafts store, and just buy black dye and do that...

    These are intake hoses... not like they will "leak."
     
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    For a recent project I completed on my F355, I used the hose via the link below for the braided hoses that go from the oil filter housing to the intake plenums. Other than the little white marks in the braiding, which can easily be made black, it looks very similar to the original hoses I removed other than the fact that these looked fresh and deep black and the originals looked brownish and bad.

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    That's a great idea, Andy. Got any pics of the new hoses installed?
     
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    Let me make an out of the box suggestion: Try convertible top restorer. BMW makes a really good product for their convertible tops. It works wonders on fabric tops, making them look new. I always wondered about doing the intake hoses with the stuff. Maybe I'll try it out.
     
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    Painting them works too. A satin black engine paint from VHT will do the trick.
     
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    #10 Davsk1, Jun 10, 2016
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    I recently dealt with some faded stitching on a steering wheel, this technique is all over the M5 forum, it's not actually faded but just grimy. It's restored by cleaning with laundry detergent and a stiff brush. I had tried previously cleaning with wipes and no where near as good as the neat detergent. Maybe worth a go. See attached pictures.
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    I actually have some from my former roadster. It is the 2-part kit of cleaner/conditioner, and water repellent sealer. I may try some of the cleaner/conditioner on a small spot with the second hose, but think that something with a dye component is more the ticket.

    I had eyeballed sprayable vinyl/carpet 'dye' paint, but everything that I had read indicated that it is more of a plasticy coating that doesn't penetrate well. May look OK for short term, but I'm not sure it's a real restorative fix. Same with an engine paint meant for hard iron and aluminum components, rather than rubberized flex hoses. I'm sure it would crack and flake in short order.
     
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    #12 itsablurr, Jun 15, 2016
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    I ended up testing out some of the Forever Black, and the results appear to be very good. Difficult to capture the full improvement in black color consistency due to the shape of the part and weave texture under light. In-hand, it is much more noticeable.

    I did the non-visible end of one hose as a test, after thoroughly degreasing, scrubbing the parts clean with a detergent cleaner, rinsing, and letting it dry out completely for a few days. I applied Forever Black with a disposable paint brush for the rubberized woven hose surface, brushing across the weave, then at 90 deg angles to fill in, and with a foam brush for the end rings. Let the test area dry, and the next day came back and checked it out, passed a scratch test for adhesion/penetration of the dye. After that, I completed the rest of the hose. Here is a comparison against the second hose, which has been cleaned only.
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    #13 John_K_348, Jun 15, 2016
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    That looks pretty good. You may follow up with some vinyl spray paint to restore even more color. I went ahead and swapped them out for 3 inch Spectre flex pipes in chrome plastic. I liked the look and the sound was fantastic. With a K&N filter the "song" at cruise rpms of 3200 was intoxicating. I took them off my old car when it was totaled. If anyone want to buy them I will consider it. I am still finding out if they can be used on the 360 pipes. Putting the stretched portions closer to the filter housing helped them resonate and the collapsed springs helped to insulate past the heat shields.
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    #14 itsablurr, Jun 15, 2016
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    The color I'd say is pretty fully restored. Sunlight on that texture is difficult to photograph with a cell. Attached a pic here indoors of before/after with more diffused lighting that shows the fresh black color more accurately. The hoses to begin with were in pretty decent shape in comparison to others I've seen, and had not faded all *that* badly. Certainly acceptable as they were, but the effort to get them looking that much better and freshened was minimal, and so worth going ahead.

    Did you find more induction sound with the flex pipe, or the K&N?
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    Yes! Very nice.

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    Nice job Matt.
     

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