OFFICIAL FERRARI F12 TDF PICTURE THREAD

Just watched Harris' TG segment with my 19 year old nephew. I hadn't seen it. We pissed our pants laughing with excitement. The tdf is officially Legend.

Oh, and definitely normal belts for me. I'm only good enough for track days, normal belts work well enough.

 

More of the silver + Stripe

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGkg67KL1Rs/?tagged=f12tdf
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGmGHkXHuy5/?tagged=f12tdf
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGj8SQovW8C/?tagged=f12tdf

Red on red. I like.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGl2hpUCs9L/?tagged=f12tdf

 

Wow. Not sure about the yellow, but interesting...

Grigio Titanio, I presume?

The variety of stripes and liveries currently on tdf's is just crazy.
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Looks great in Titanio, but not keen on the stripe.

 

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I have not had them in our recent road cars (USA, so not allowed anyway), but I did have them in my modified (street) Porsche and Ford Bronco. My personal view...

1) for normal driving, they are a pain in the rear. For them to be effective at all, they need to be worn tightly; in most "normal" driving I found them restrictive, I could not reach dash controls, look over my shoulder, et al

2) the 3pt belts are designed to work with the SRS (airbags); there is a lot of valid and open debate about harnesses worn without a HANS device increasing risk of head/neck injuries.

3) regardless, and given the magnitude of the decision with a TDF, I'd try and find a car with harnesses and drive it around a bit (normally, on the street) and see how it works for you

4) no doubt, even in our 458/Speciale/F12, with the "racing seats", the 3pt belts allow you to move a bit. You can "pre-tension" the belts, but a harness does hold you better when on track. If you're planning a lot of track work, I'd consider it. Then again, if you're considering a lot of track work, I'd advise a better seat, 6-pt harnesses, HANS, et al. (remember, the OEM harness is only 4-pt).

To be clear, in my race cars, I am 110% comfortable and happy being tightly belted in with 6-pt belts, in a very enveloping HALO seat, unable to move much at all. However, that same restriction in a street car doesn't work for me; it might for you. (ask Carlo aka 458Trofeo).

There is something "seductive and cool" about harnesses in a Ferrari for sure. If you like them AND you know they will work for you (i.e. I'd try it out) then the choice is yours.

 

Wished I had them in the GTO, have them in the Speciale. Definitely add a sense of occasion, however be sure your significant other likes harnesses because, lets just say they can be rather impractical if you are getting in and out of the car often.

 

What does Ferrari to prevent submarining in the 4 point?

 

this is getting off-thread a bit, but...

Ferrari, like all automotive OEM's, have to have their safety systems designed to pass the various DoT/NHTSA, MoT, TUV, EU, etc etc safety and crash regulations

Most/all modern car seats are actually homologated items and certified, and have anti-sub bars in the seats....BUT the seats/belts/airbags are designed as a system.

The general idea in a frontward impact is the occupant is restrained backwards by the seatbelt tensioners (which are usually pyrotechnic), the airbags deploy (more pyro), the seat deforms a bit, and the passenger ideally sinks into the seat; the anti-sub bar hopefully (along with the lap belt) keeps the occupant in the seat by preventing the hips from rotating forward.

You may recall years ago (80's?) the prominent knee bolsters in many cars; the idea was that would keep the occupant from sliding UNDER the lap belt into the footwell....some cars even had knee airbags

Volvo published a good video on all their systems and how they interact a while ago, it might be out on YouTube.

Said otherwise, there is very little anti-sub (i.e. crotch strap) in modern cars, the idea is to contain the occupants via the belts, seats and airbags (including deformation of the seat, the seat base, steering column, et al). If you ever see the remnants of a modern car post a big shunt, there is a lot of deformation...which absorbs energy....which is also why the cost of a big hit is high, lots of parts to replace within the safety systems.

From a purely "race car" perspective, the Ferrari OEM belts 1) have zero anti-sub and 2) have a "click latch" (typical seatbelt fastener) that would not meet FIA specs for race belts. (including the coil cable to feed the seatbelt alarm buzzer/light)

 

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Grigio Ferro

 

Nice.

Some randomn tdf goodness from the gram.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGlfXConJsY/?tagged=f12tdf&hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGlv4dvs6D0/?tagged=f12tdf&hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGlg9JgGCus/?tagged=f12tdf&hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGlg4dYGCug/?tagged=f12tdf&hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGmGHkXHuy5/?tagged=f12tdf&hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGl-PMKFKhY/?tagged=f12tdf&hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGmfgFvjoN8/?tagged=f12tdf&hl=en

 

Excellent information. Thanks guys and the grigio F12tdfs look fantastic. Really suits the car.

 

I had to control myself not to go with GF as I think this looks great, but this scheme was already in my mind for the M
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I love this...just needs a red stripe!

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/falcon_33/27579577191/sizes/k/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/falcon_33/27618963026/sizes/k/

profiles

 

Very elegant and understated.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lhermet_laurent/27572261382/sizes/k/

when the past meets the present!!

 

I have to say, this is the most beautiful TDF I've seen to-date. Unbelievably beautiful. And I'm not just saying that because my Speciale is Grigio Ferro!

 

https://scontent-ams3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/13402636_240604816322797_1796116872_n.jpg?dl=1

https://scontent-ams3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/13394911_146226402453640_1935072336_n.jpg?dl=1

 

Great shot. Perhaps in 25 years I'll think differently but black wheels and yellow calipers do nothing to make the "present" as cool as the "past".

 

Two gorgeous dark reds draped on some beautiful silhouettes: Ferrari F12tdf - 12 June 2016 - Autogespot

 

Any idea what red the F12B is on the right of the TDF ?

 

This may help: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ff-gtc4lusso-f12/483171-amazing-color-f12.html

Imagine the tdf in that colour! Some colours really steal the spotlight.


Looks like AN is becoming my arch nemesis. Is the tdf AN and the f12b Grigio Titanio? https://mobile.twitter.com/HROwenFerrari/status/741236584394199040/photo/1

 

Thanks - IMO it's a gorgeous Bordeaux/drk red

 

Hello FChatters

Not a real picture of a TDF, but a very nice leak of what's coming on 10 November.

I don't know if you heard about the story of Horacio Pagani visiting Ferrari recently, everybody thought he was there for the new engine partnership....but NO.

In this magazine he revelead why he was there, he was there to tailor made his new TDF.

Horacio said that he also like LaFerrari, but when he check, they were all sold. Than the TDF came, and he immediately like the car.

He like the triple layer yellow of the presentation because it reminds him the Zonda Roadster 2003, but when he knew that 40% of TDF were made in that sku ( nice to know, 40%... was this figure known already? ) he decided to change, and they work out something based on a 70's Lotus ( I am not expert in 1970 Lotus color scheme, will it be yellow or red? )

They will deliver Pagani TDF ( lol, sound weird ) the day of his birthday, 10 November 2016

I found this sotry very nice to share ! Very special customer , but very genuine treatment

This is the magazine page

http://i.imgur.com/akW3kPg.jpg