Lamborghinis at auction

Relax.

To answer your question, I've never seen this car, and have never suggested I have.

That said, as we all know its entirely possible to assess a car from good quality images, inspection reports, known history, and reliable information. I don't necessarily have to see a car to have an accurate opinion on its status.

My description of the car as an "excellent one-owner" car was made at the time Gullwing had just received the car as a one-owner-from-new car with all of its ancillaries from day one including the window sticker I posted, and was based on good quality images (see the Flickr library on the car), inspection reports, & known history. Even with 30,000 miles, I thought it was an excellent one-owner" car, especially at the price Gullwing was asking at the time relative to other 25ths.

Chris' comment "As Joe would say, it was a nice restoration candidate" is entirely up to him, as he & I never discussed this car, and he possibly borrowed the common phrase "restoration candidate" from some posts I've used in the past. Perhaps he feels like it is a restoration candidate, and if he does, he is entitled to his opinion! One man's restoration candidate can be another man's "excellent one-owner" car. That said, on the other hand, IMVHO, many Lamborghinis are old enough to be "restoration candidates" and as you can see by the number of restorations going on, many agree.

It appears to me you are simply looking for inconsistencies to start something, when in fact no harm whatsoever was intended by Chris' or my comments. You still have three (3) 25th Anniversaries to sell, so why not focus on highlighting the features, waxing lyrical and extolling the virtues of those cars, rather than looking for perceived inconsistencies with statements anyone may have made? After all, the very fact that you have three (3) 25th Anniversaries itself represents an inconsistency with the disparaging remarks you made about 25ths and their values after I started the 25th Anniversario thread, does it not? I think your time would be much better spent focusing on the positives of the cars you still have available. After all, everyone here likes to see the cars appreciated and going to good end-user homes.

 

Since you repeat multiple times that it needs work, exactly what work does this 25th Anniversario KLA12694 currently need, and how much will this cost?

It would be helpful to expand on this.

Also, do you have first-hand information that Rawlings went over the car and "decided the cost to get it right was more then he wanted to invest" or are you guessing that this is the case?

As Joey says, its entirely possible he buys the cars more for the show, than to make money, but personally I have no idea why he bought this car. One thing I know everyone objective will agree with is that it is NEVER good for the market when a car sells from dealer-to-dealer without finding an end-user.

 

Correct.

 

LOL. I am relaxed fine..was not starting anything at all..simple question was asked as to how your description of the car was different then ours...nothing more nothing less..

You answered it, thanks..

I would disagree with you and think it "free handing" to give a car a certain "Thumps up" as well as even a "Thumps down" with out viewing it and inspecting it...especially the vehicles we deal in.

I actually have 5 25th cars currently, 3 for sale, 2 not advertised or for sale. They are as described and will sooner or later sell...for what and when, that is yet to be seen.

 

You can answer that for us..YOU STATED you can evaluate a car by pictures and documents....so why don't you tell us??

As far as first hand knowledge, NOPE just making an "educated guess"...whats that have to due with your "rating of this car"? just deflection

as far as buying it for the show...very possible...as far as going Dealer to Dealer, again yes, not good, but one day one way one place all vehicles sale....

EVEN DD cars that get described as to "have no needs" but in all fairness, that car was never seen nor first hand inspected by you either now was it...nope just pictures and records...and we all know how that turned out..

 

Sorry, I respectfully disagree. With my experience with Countachs which spans 30 years, I am in an excellent position to give any car thumbs up or down based on my received wisdom as described in my earlier post (perhaps you missed it) and practiced due-diligence. There are many ways to properly evaluate a car without seeing it in person. Fpr example, send Chip Davis - none better. From a number of sources I can form my professional opinion.

That said, I never gave KLA12694 the proverbial thumbs up or down, after all I have zero affiliation with it.

Owning 5 25ths after making disparaging remarks you made about 25ths and their values is not where I'd want to be, but if you do congratulations, and all the more reason to focus your efforts positively. As I said, we all want the same thing...

 

Not just (really good high-resolution) pictures and documents, but, inspection reports, known history, and reliable information.

I am not stating that the car needs work, you are, so surely this is based on something?

 

Oooooops, missed this gem in my haste

Actually, for the record, JLA12292 turned out great because, the Seller at the time told me that the car had no needs, and you dealt directly with the seller, whilst I had ZERO involvement with the sale. One assumes you personally inspected the car, right? You then spent $75,000 on the so-called needs and SOLD SOLD SOLD it profitably in a short period. So, I'd say it worked out well, no? You did a great job, and the car lives in a great home worth multiples what it was worth then, so I'd say all parties are happy, myself included!

 

Correct again!

You said it was an "excellent...".

So you must know something as well to make such a statement

Round and Round we can go...LOL

 

Yes I did, so?

My prerogative, anything one-owner-from new with all ancillaries is excellent.

I gave it a "thumbs up" as you suggest, that was my opinion, and none of my subsequent comments detract from that.

 

No it didn't piss me off, it simply showed me your character and underscored your integrity, or lack thereof, and thanks for going on the record publicly to confirm what Ive always said when asked! Either way, I was happy with the result, and Ive SOLD SOLD SOLD more than a few DDs to make up for it, no?

Personally I find it a bit hypocritical that someone would blatantly disparage the 25th Anniversary and its values (see the 25th thread) and then, go out and buy 5 of them!

I'd say you are the one who is pissed that you are stuck with 5 25th Anniversarios in a soft & declining market

 

Thanks Chris, your confirmation is appreciated!

 

ill take a 25th anniversary if you guys dont want them.

i would even be happy with a "decent" condition driver.

 

Good Morning and Thank You.

Again you are 100% correct...thanks for "Confirming" my future predictions of the 25th, which of course you painted quite a different picture.

Lets keep in mind the "Wine store Owner" does not have to enjoy and love every wine he sells, I am sure, as with all of us, he has a favorite...as do I.

I try to keep several variants in stock as to appeal to the wider buying population.

Have a wonderful day.

Carry on...thanks

 

LOL

I dont see his response as a "turn around" on the words he sated as being in-correct and yours as being correct that it was an "excellent Example...."

Nope, as a matter fact, the way I read it and see it, he was confirming that his view's were seen differnt then yours....which is what you were suggesting.

Have a wonderful day

carry on

 

Utter nonsense.

Who says his response was being interpreted by me as a "turn around"?

I don't need anyone's help per se, I can handle school-yard bullies all by myself I simply politely said "your confirmation is appreciated", nothing more nothing less, and the only a mind-reader could 'read' into that comment that I saw this as some kind of "turn around"! You are completely wrong and so far off-base with your rambling drivel that you fail to see that in essence you are saying the same thing as me! I pointed out several posts back that he has his own opinion clearly with my "one man's restoration project is another man's excellent car" comment

The bottom line is, you started something unnecessarily a few posts back, simply because you are pissed-off because you stuck with a boatload of Countachs you can't sell.

 

Baloney.

You must be some kind of genius to go out and buy a boatload of 25ths, after disparaging them and claiming right here on Ferrarichat that no 25th is worth more than $150k

Seriously, there is a pattern here.

I start a thread, you come on and disparage the car, then go out and buy a boatload of them. I mean, who does this? A tad hypocritical no?

I guess there are leaders and followers but don't forget that timing is everything

The bottom line is, I don't go on your Pontiac, Ford, Buick & motorcycle "sales threads" and continually harass & bait you, so perhaps note that when you direct stuff at me, you're going to get an appropriate response.

Carry on?

I'm just getting started, later I'll tell you what I really think perhaps then I'll publish a book about it

 

Some of these are coming up at auction.

14 Lamborghini Countach for sale on JamesEdition

Lamborghini Countach For Sale

https://www.classicdriver.com/en/cars/lamborghini/countach?make=169&model=1461&search_type=advanced&page=1 note that this Countach https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/lamborghini/countach/1986/341324 has already been sold by us.

 

I am thankful that you take time to respond ..them "Dang" nats buzzing your ear....LOL

Meanwhile some Car porn for your enjoyment this fine Wednesday Morning..I was only able to pull one of my "Boatload $150K Countach cars" out to get a pic....oh wait, this is a 88 1/2....a stunning car if I say so myself...
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Fun tread.rave on, is anything selling?

 

just in case no one has time to look it up...here is the definition of it...


confirmation
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noun
1.
the act of confirming.
2.
the state of being confirmed.
3.
something that confirms, as a corroborative statement or piece of evidence:
His birth certificate served as confirmation of his citizenship.
4.
a rite administered to baptized persons, in some churches as a sacrament for confirming and strengthening the recipient in the Christian faith, in others as a rite without sacramental character by which the recipient is admitted to full communion with the church.
5.
a solemn ceremony among Reform and certain Conservative Jews that is held in the synagogue, usually on Shavuoth, to admit formally as adult members of the Jewish community Jewish boys and girls 14 to 16 years of age who have successfully completed a prescribed course of study in Judaism.

 

Mecum's August offerings to date:
1968 Lamborghini Miura P400 S/N 3315
1986 Lamborghini Countach 5000 Quattrovalvole Unrestored, Same Owner Since 1987
1976 Lamborghini Silhouette S/N 40002

 

I'm sorry but I've always thought the Countach looked garish and cartoonish; suitable only for a pimp in a purple leisure suit. There, that should provide a suitable and welcome interruption from the significantly monolithic two person thread.

 

You forgot the addition of the GOLD CHAIN on the open button down silk shirt with big collars and Hairy chest exposed. LOL