2016 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

I only started 'liking' Nico in the Hamilton years at Mercedes, probably because someone else in the team shifted the balance.

I always found Nico being very, let's say 'German'. He is saying the right things. He rather says nothing than the wrong things, etc. Vettel, Hami, Kimi... they all worry much less about marketing strategists and waffle what comes their way... Nico, (and the whole of MAMG, by the way) are so full phrases and sweet talk. Very annoying, but that is what most sports are like these days. In that sense especially Vettel is refreshing.

I always found Rosberg incredibly arrogant. This might have faded in three years that humbled him. It might have only faded in my head due to sentence one above

 

Yep agree with this. Though I don't exactly find him arrogant. I liked that he drank champagne out of a fish bowl after his 2014 monaco win...I HATE that he's become a pushover again (monaco, Canada), I just can't support that. Hopefully he sees sense he will play ruthless, I can really respect that.

Did you catch the Sky commentary, moaning that Kimi/Vettel where swearing too much and that it can't be good for FIAT shares and Ferrari marketing? I almost lost my **** when they suggested that.

 

I don't know if this will be good or bad for shares, etc...but I must admit that I thought that Kimi was indeed swearing a lot...

Rgds

 

One thing for sure: Kimi is GONE next year. He's lost it.

 

Easily understandable, first a bs penalty, then doing incredibly well fighting his way through the pack after an early stop, getting debris in his car, and being held up for multiple laps by backmarkers only caring about their own race whilst Kimi tried to pull a 5 second gap. Just a few corners behind backmarkers is enough to lose several seconds. I'd be pissed too.

Yeah, PdR hasn't got the experience Brundle has in the commentary section, who keeps crofty under control and regularly disagrees with Croft. It's funny when Martin really disagrees with him, he's quiet for a few seconds, then debunks' Crofties theory by simply stating ''No. I don't agree with that''. Lol .

 

Agree.

 

He managed to get a lot of laps out of those tires in his second stint. That was impressive.

If Raikkonen leaves, I'd quite like to see Button recruited until Verstappen is available.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

No way Andrew...if Kimi is dead, Jenson is burried already...

 

Can't see button. I think if a few youngsters aren't available it'll be vettel/kimi for one more year

 

Please explain why? Please.

For the love of the baby jesus, did any of you lot watched this race? Did you guys nod off? Where watching the adverts on NBSCNSC?

And before I get hit with the banning stick again...

I get if you hate a driver, but making completely and utterly baseless statements like these piss me right off. Kimi drove forever on his tires, had to battle his way through the field, and still ended IN FRONT of Vettel, who he duly let passed when needed. He got a stupid penalty for something that ALWAYS gets done at EVERY race, even during this one and for anyone else, it went unpunished. He let Perez pass because there was ZERO reason to fight him in the last lap and risk a crash. If he didn't have the penalty he wouldn't have let him pass...


But in your infinite wisdom, what did Kimi do this time to warrant his exit from the team? Not beat the guy that has 4x as many titles, earns 4x as much, and is a more accomplished driver?

If you don't like someone just say it. But don't make baseless accusations that someone should be sacked just because you don't understand the sport

 

I like Kimi but he makes too many mistakes. Who knows, maybe Ferrari can get Ricciardo, Grosjean, Rosberg, or anyone but Kvyat, the one man wrecking ball.

 

What was Vettel's comment in the holding pen? Something like: "Hey Checko, what're you doing here? Did you pass anyone?" Highlight of the race for me.

 

Same could be said for Vettel....who did he pass of note....

 

He did the job at the start. So he didn't have too! Hehe

 

By the way, welcome back Bas, nice return posts too. Kimi indeed shone at the weekend, a good solid race, dumb penalty, but I'm guessing the stewards were hoping Elton would be behind him towards the end and would need the free seconds. Unfortunately, they forgot that Elton wouldn't have done any homework and concentrated on his music (sic), so couldn't foresee him forgetting how to put the choke back in hahahahaha

 

My point about Kimi is he's lost his cool and there certainly seems to be some tension in the team between them.

When the team has to tell Kimi to "shut up and drive", he's gone

 

I'm puzzled. What mistakes then? Running over a line that many others did and only he got penalized for?

You lot are obviously watching a different race from ours (even though the world feed is the same ).

Lost his cool? Is THAT the reason he should be sacked? He was pissed the car lost power and that for MANY laps there where no blue flags when he was lapping others. It's an obvious message to charlie. He's racing his heart out, on a compromised strategy (by ferrari Strategists).

 

cheers mate.

I'm utterly puzzled at this forum yet again.

 

He ran over it with all four wheels while chasing someone making a pitstop.

Maybe I missed something but I didn't see anyone else with all four wheels over the line, 2 wheels yes.

 

Just want to reiterate, I'm not some butt hurt fanboy here, but if someone makes a point about something please make it something that'll stick, not some weak ass argument.

 

Meh. He was chasing ricciardo (I think, one of the RBR anyways), bailed out when he noticed the RBR went into the pit. It was a stupid penalty.

Other backmarkers did go over the line too, with no penalty.

 

What's puzzling you?

All the best,
Andrew.

 

I think Kimi did really well this race too.

 

It's not just twitter following... it's coverage in general. The announcers don't even talk about him that much even when he wins. They talk more about Lewis, Ric, Seb, Kimi, Hulk, Perez, Alonso, Verstappen... pretty much anyone other then Ros.

He's just seems to be a very benign figure and I think fans in general are indifferent to him. I don't get the impression he's one of those guys who truly doesn't care. I do think he'd like the fan appreciation and recognition from the sporting world, but there's just something about him that turns people off... or at least away.