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Discussion in 'F1' started by NeuroBeaker, Jun 13, 2016.

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  1. WPOZZZ

    WPOZZZ F1 Veteran

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    Welcome back!
     
  2. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Yay!
     
  3. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    WElcome bud we missed you...the other guy, not so much ;)
     
  4. nerofer

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    Hmmm...that can be discussed, Pedro; considering the outcome of the Baku Grand Prix, it could have been "interesting"....the fact that "the other guy" didn't have to answer may have actually saved him from a lot of embarassment. In fact, Andrew did him a favor!

    Rgds
     
  5. maulaf

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    huh? I didn't catch that. Did the one that we do not speak about also receive a prescribed holiday from Dr. Muppet?
     
  6. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

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    Well...living in the southern hemisphere is more difficult because everything is upside down, eh? (I love Capetown, by the way, so no offense...)

    Actually... didn't you find his silence slightly suprising? Then see post #41 page 3 of this thread.

    To say that he was "put between brackets" when we could have had things so easy due to the incidents in Baku during qualis and race, this is so unfair! actually Andrew did him a favor...

    Rgds
     
  7. maulaf

    maulaf Formula 3

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    Ahh... thanks! Upside down, indeed. I lost a bit of interest in this particular thread for a while didn't read/overlooked it. Strange stuff, though, I feel we have all been called haters about 241 times before.

    Be it as it may, it was a surprisingly quiet week. Toil barely admits any wrongdoing. But when the forum boils over due to some conflict he has a tendency to go into introspection for a while before returning to post again.
     
  8. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Yes,i thought about that too...almost asked Andrew to free him for the weekend!!:)
     
  9. toil

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    Witch hunt successful. You all managed to pull the wool over the mods eyes and get me banned for absolutely nothing. Got it to 6 pages too, well done.

    I'm sure I could dig up old posts and get at least 5 people here banned but I'm not that way inclined and don't have that much free time
     
  10. NeuroBeaker

    NeuroBeaker Advising Moderator
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    Welcome back. :)

    However, you were not banned over nothing, you were banned here:


    For this:

    Intentionally teasing or provoking other users in order "get a rise out of them", thereby disrupting the harmony of this site is TROLLING and will NOT be tolerated.

    Which is clearly listed as forbidden in the sticky thread that has been at the top of the forum for over 10 months:


    Had I seen those posts at the time, or had they been reported sooner, you would have been banned for them at the time.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  11. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Too busy googling more pro Hamilton propaganda?
     
  12. toil

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    I see three posts on that page linked to me and all are tame.

    We need our own statute of limitations on this forum that's set at 2 weeks top tbh. Unless you condone people trawling through others posts from months ago to try get them banned. The revenge cycle will perpetuate itself and this place will be a ghost town
     
  13. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Pardon?
     
  14. WPOZZZ

    WPOZZZ F1 Veteran

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    No pardons. Execution! lol
     
  15. NeuroBeaker

    NeuroBeaker Advising Moderator
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    You were goading people into frustration. That is specifically forbidden.

    Each reported post will be subject to examination and the discretion of the attending moderator. In my case, I may decide that something minor from months ago isn't worth a ban, or I may decide that a ban is justified no matter how long it took to report it. Each case is unique and the attending moderator will have the full range of tools at their disposal for addressing each one. It will not become the case that folk can hope for impunity over their transgressions if only they can make it X amount of time before it is reported or a moderator notices it, with peer pressure applied to others to try to ensure that they don't report it. If I think someone is sitting on reports in order to them file at the most beneficial time for their own revenge, then they will be dealt with too - the moderator team is not a tool for personal revenge.

    I've encouraged people to report problems in a timely fashion, but it seems that if they don't then they only have themselves to blame for sitting seething on issues that haven't been brought to the attention of the moderators and ruin the enjoyment of the F1 forum for everyone. There are too many posts for any one person to review and approve each and every one - it would be a full time job for multiple people. Furthermore, the notion that there's pride to be had in not reporting anything is ridiculous and bragging about not being a reporter is childish at best. For those people: the F1 forum is not Cosa Nostra, you are (probably) not a mafioso, I am (certainly) not the FBI, and the implementation of omertà is not applicable. Avoiding the report button seems confined to those who then later become the loudest boasters of their inaction and most ardent public detractors about moderator bias/inaction over nonspecific problems that haven't been brought to our attention. :rolleyes:

    If you see a problem, report it with the /!\ button (upper right of the post) and let the moderator team take it from there.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  16. Smyrna355Spider

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    Lets at least be truthful. The Monaco thread was from May 29th. So lets not try to spin it into months later. Your attacks were fresh in my mind from 2 weeks earlier. I didn't need to trawl through your posts to find them. Secondly, I will be sure not to simply ignore your posts of intentional attacks in the future and will report them immediately. ;)
     
  17. toil

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    Literal or figurative?


    "Piling-on", or acting as a group to disparage a user who has expressed a contrarian point of view (their love and loyalty for an unpopular driver/team, for example) with the intent of silencing that user or running that user out of the F1 forum is TROLLING and will NOT be tolerated.

    How you didn't get a week off yourself I don't know... Your posts are far worse than the ones you quoted of me.
     
  18. toil

    toil F1 Rookie
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    Andrew all I ask for is consistency. Not pot calling the kettle black and the kettle gets banned but the pot doesn't.
     
  19. Aircon

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    #119 Aircon, Jun 21, 2016
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    I just worked out why you're a Hamilton fan. Clearly it's because he's won 3 x WDC and is well on the way to many more. Right?
     
  20. NeuroBeaker

    NeuroBeaker Advising Moderator
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    That's not what he's doing. He's not silencing you or trying to run you out of town (which is partly what Bas was banned for), he's advising the people in a discussion about moderation standards to put you on ignore if they find your posting immature or vacuous. You're perfectly free to post and he's perfectly free not to listen to you - furthermore, his advice might save other valuable contributors from earning a ban by responding to you with actionable frustration. The advice to utilize the ignore feature is the official position of the moderation team and something that you yourself have advocated many times over the years:

    Pre-crackdown on decorum:


    Post-crackdown on decorum.


    It would be inconsistent of me to ban someone for reiterating advice from the moderation team.

    You're getting consistency, despite it being increasingly difficult to provide it with the near constant accusations that I'm biased.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  21. IamRobG

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    We were all impressed by how well this season with toil started. He was calm, informative somewhat, and reasonable.

    Fast Forward a few months and he's intolerable again droning on and on about Hamilton.

    What happened man?
     
  22. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Jealous of Bieber lol!
     
  23. Aircon

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    Really? I never suspected for a minute that it would last. Leopards and their spots and all that.
     
  24. cig1

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  25. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    oh ffs! Want me to start going over all your posts now?
     

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