FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS VON ÖSTERREICH 2016: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

thinking back on the race....i take back what i said 18 months ago when these v6's came out...we certainly have a great racing series now. very exciting.

very pleased today with kimi, max, jenson

 

Perhaps Austrians have a soft-spot for a (fellow) German . . .

If Lewis didn't have such a long first pitstop (i.e. problems with removing the LR tire), Rosberg most likely would've never seen the race lead in the first place.

 

+1

 

I think that depends highly on who you mean when you say "people". If you're saying Hamilton fans, then you'd might be right (though I think it was pretty clear what happened here). Otoh, if you mean everyone else, then I'd strongly disagree.

If you mean F-Chat specifically, then I'd say you should re-think that conclusion. LH is the most polarizing driver on the grid, from an F-Chat standpoint.

 

It was a clean pass until Nico decided to run way wide and then double down on the exit.

If the order were reversed and that had been Lewis banging into Nico....well, there's plenty of threads blaming Lewis for everything. That you can't find them or remember them highlights your bias. Do you talk to your therapist about your denial?

 

COTA 2015, turn 1:

"car 44 didn't allow car 6 racing room".....

 

1st corner at Silverstone could get interesting next week. Ferrari or Red Bull my have a chance if the Mercedes duo cannot get their heads screwed on straight. My guess is that this won't be the last time they run into each other this year, Rosberg has finally had enough of Hamilton's tactics, so now he is imitating him. Probably not good for his contract negotiations as if Rosberg won't give way to Hamilton, there is probably not room for both of them on the team. Wehrlien did not hurt his chances to move up today, but I don't think he will play wet nurse to Hamilton either, could be interesting next year.

 

Not really..his stop was a second slower than normal, but he made a bigger mistake which definitely cost him even more time.

Rosberg then extended his lead to 6.9 seconds and then the SC came, which closed the gap...and then he extended and maintained the gap to 2 seconds.

 

Lewis' first stop was 4.2 seconds. What was the "bigger mistake which cost definitely cost him even more time?"

 

New image, someone better phone the FIA and get them to give Lewham a penalty!
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I consider the word "ass" is not according to good manners and the regulations of this forum not matter if somebody is against Nico Rosberg

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"Ass"- as in donkey, stubborn and stupid animal. Which he was. A) he was intentionally taking out both cars (preserving his championship lead) or B) completely overwhelmed by the red mist. He was no where near that apex, making no real attempt to turn. Brake problems- I guess that means brake later and harder? NR made a mistake corner before, both LH and NR knew LH was going to get a shot long before it happened. NR doing what he did guaranteed disaster. If LH had clipped him making the pass (which was really close)- I would call out LH.
For the record I am not cheering for LH, my favorite driver is JB- Canadian Grand Prix 2011, 'nuff said.

 

He drove himself off track.

Lewis stops are normally around 2.5. No idea why, but always been the case since he got into F1. My only logical explanation is that he doesn't stop exactly on the mark (as is required for a superstop).

 

No they had problems with the gun getting the wheel off.

That move Nico pulled is his notorious block. He runs wide in the corner to block entry for the person passing. This time, it didn't work. Lewis turned in as Nico blocked. I blame Nico for doing his bonehead move, and lewis got lucky he didn't get the damage.

I did enjoy watching Jenson try his hardest to maintain some kind of points.

 

Without Verstappen and Ricciardo, F1 would be effing boring. They seem to be the only ones that do any real passing.

Lewis did nothing spectacular or entertaining today. He drove a clean first stint, got screwed on his pitstop and slowly crawled back until the safety car and then the incident.

Rosberg started 7th and held the lead for a good part of the race too.

 

Exactly my point. Those 1.7 crucial seconds meant the difference between Lewis maintaining his track position over Nico as he exited the pits, or losing said track position as ultimately happened.

 

Lewis Hamilton v Nico Rosberg: Mercedes have a problem - BBC Sport

This gives a good synopsis of what happened. The one thing not really discussed is the impact Lewis' much longer first stint had on track position later on in the race. This long first stint seemingly happened because the team had Lewis on a one-stop strategy at that early point in the race (i.e. so as to cover Ferrari). But when Nico made his first stop some 10+ laps earlier than Lewis, Nico, on fresh tires, was 1.5-2.0 seconds per laps faster than Lewis over the next 10+ laps. So by the time Lewis made his first stop (which was a slow 4.2 seconds due to the delay in removing his LR tire), Lewis just got jumped by Nico as he (Lewis) rejoined the circuit.

 

Good point. Kimi had a great pace ,lost out when the team brought him in late.Equal on points with Seb.So doing a pretty solid job.If he continues like this i doubt Ferrari would risk taking on a replacement .. its big pressure on Kimi of course but he's not called Iceman for nothing,might surprise a few people in the remaining races.

All we need is for the Merc's to continue their squabble,great for Ferrari.

 

Kimi is toast. Ferrari will go with a youth movement.

 

I still don't get how everyone says Rosberg is totally at fault post lap 1 at both Spain and again at Canada where Hamilton either took his co-driver out or cost him any chance. Is that entirely fair? Rosberg may have done a move, even a bad one, but then when Hamilton does a move, that he is what being racy, which is just BS. As for Rosberg being penalised further there have been plenty of times that Senna, Schumacher and even Hamilton did moves that they should have been penalised for but weren't so totally disagree although if you shut one eye you could just about see why.

Mercedes may have to bring in team orders which will either suck or make one a #2 driver which will suck even more. The Brits will love it if the team tells Hamilton he HAS to stay behind Rosberg at Silverstone because of team orders or the old leading at corner 1 rule.

 

Hilarious

 

Yeh ,maybe that's what Nicole imagined in his troubled mind. Even after the stewards,tv pundits,ex F1 drivers,maybe even Toto and Niki himself found him at fault..he stubbornly refused to accept blame. I would hope Berger and Keke will put him straight on this one.This petulant attitude is not the one of a true champion.

Nicole's main problem,is that he knows Lewis is better then him,yes he is now making a fight to be a better racer,but even he cannot fool himself for ever.

It would be incredible if MB give him more than a 1 year contract.

 

MB should trade Nicole for Perez

 

Petulant and champion are always together. Vettel accepting blame was not his trademark either. Denial is also another part of the 'champion'. Gentleman like Clark these are not today.....

 

When Nico wins the championship this year, I'm going to enjoy the silence from eltons best friends here on fchat.

 

This was an excellent race by Rosberg. He has always been exceptionally strong in Austria for some reason. And he held Hamilton off in a car falling apart. Had Vettel not disassembled in his face, he would have cruised home to an easy victory.

His Schumacher-Jerez-style knock on Hamilton later on was a bit misplaced. He needs to lean back and study the art of running someone wide at the exit, not entry.

I feel sorry for the Hulk. What a horrible season he is having.