OFFICIAL FERRARI SUCKS THREAD ***WARNING: Spoilers & Truth May Hurt***

Not bad, taking into consideration that they were racing against the track version of a road car that it´s based on a track car, that was allowed to race despite the road version is still not for sale, that the ACO relieved the Fords of 25 kg. of ballast (after the practice they realized that they had been too generous so they put 10 kg back. The Ferrari got 15 kg. more) and that Ford brought 4 cars versus 3 Ferraris, two of them delayed by silly problems like loose drain covers that broke a wheel and things like that.

At least the good ole uncle Risi beat 3 of the 4 Fords and put a good fight. But I suppose that you only read the headlines and forget the rest, like the WEC championships and Le Mans class wins that Ferrari got these years. Wonk, wonk... Wish the F1 team was as succesful as Corse Clienti.

 

Yep, you couldn't make it up !

 

Exactly!!

They rigged the homologation process, they manipulated the BOP, and they penalised the main challenger to ensure a Ford victory.

 

We'd soon see who had the last laugh if Ferrari decided to up sticks and not continue in either series......... The powers that be would have the world fall out their backsides and they'd soon be offering changes. At the moment, Ferrari feel better winning when they are on a level playing field, there's no shame in losing when a result is manipulated against your cars like F1 and apparently lemans too (I don't watch it, so I have no skin in the game there)

Forza Ferrari

 

Then I don´t know why you are always complaining about Ferrari´s tech team, car or strategy. It seems that the only problem is that Ferrari is not cheating so much as others. That´s easy to fix: they have veto power and move the biggest fan base. But it seems that they´re smart enough to think in the long term. They´ve been racing for more than 60 years while the Red Bulls and the Mercedes and Fords leave when the things don´t go as they want.

 

One thing is "a clever interpretation of the rules". That was what Colin Chapman sometimes did.

Another completely diferent thing is oportunism and strong-arm tactics like what Mercedes (if things aren't done my way I quit and half of the grid will be without engines for the next season) or Red Bull (I'm paying two teams and a race so I deserve some deference). That has more to do with money than with cleverness.

Some time ago Ferrari could do the same thing but it seems that no more. Now they're the small fish in a pound of big corporations. Ferrari's big advantage is that time is on their side. Sooner or later the big corporations start loosing and quit.

 

Ferrari already working on 2018 Formula 1 programme - F1 - Autosport

 

Honda did this in 2007, started working on their 2009 car. Worked out rather well .

 

Less sucking it is then lol

 

the prancing donkey is now the prancing mule

 

We are missing Enzo. He knew how to play F1 politics!
Pete

 

The press is reality for Ferrari. Sorry Arriva!

Let us work in peace, Ferrari F1 chief Maurizio Arrivabene asks - F1 - Autosport

 

Not sure about that!!

Having won for the last time in 1965, Ferrari has left Le Mans since 1972, I think.
Neither the WEC, nor Le Mans didn't seem to have suffered from that. Endurance racing isn't begging Ferrari to come back, when there is Poesche, Audi, Toyota, plus a huge field of LMP2.

BTW, that Risi Ferrari at Le Mans, was just in for category awards, not outright win.

In spite of what the tifosi say, I am sure that if Ferrari were to leave F1, the championship will not suffer in the long term. When one participant leaves, another one soon fills the void, but the championship doesn't falter. One goes, another comes; it's as simple as that.

 

Speaks volumes; It amazes me everytime just how few interviews Ferrari/Arrivabene give during a race weekend.

Wenn Wolff and Horner are always in front of the camera pre- and post race explaining stuff.

 

It would help if sweater boy didn't set unrealistic expectations. He's the first one that needs to stfu.

 

I think even Ferrari's rivals need Ferrari. They'd get a bigger part of the pie but it would be a smaller pie. For Ferrari it wouldn't make a big difference: they'd save a few bucks and most of their customers don't care about F1.

In F1 and other motorsports everybody knows that FIA always favours someone but in the end they don't care because they know that sooner or later everybody will have their turn.

 

Who watches lemans? Hardly teeming with fans and any meaningful tv coverage. I've never ever bothered to either watch it, or even look up the results ....... Bit of a beardy fest is how it comes across to me, maybe I'm getting the wrong end of the stick

 

Le Mans, the WEC and endurance racing has a strong following, make no mistake about it.
You may not like it, but sportcar racing has it's fans too. Don't dismiss it as irrelevant ; Le Mans existed well before F1!!!