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  1. Robert W

    Robert W Formula 3

    Mar 13, 2005
    1,471
    Oxford, UK
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    Robert Westall
    That would be great, yes.mgone a bit quiet on here!
     
  2. Long-wheelbase

    Long-wheelbase Karting

    Jul 20, 2004
    135
    #377 Long-wheelbase, Jul 4, 2016
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    I found this photograph at the weekend and thought it might help to keep this thread running!This is #69349 in June 1991 at a wedding in Surrey.
    I am sure there are lots more "wedding car" photographs out there
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  3. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Mar 2, 2005
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    Original exterior color: Blu Chiaro Metallizzato with Crema A 3997 interior.
    17 February 1987 factory completion date.

    Marcel Massini
     
  4. MikeRSR

    MikeRSR Formula Junior

    Jun 22, 2009
    476
    Surrey, England
    #379 MikeRSR, Jul 4, 2016
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    if you insist....Richmond, Surrey 1989.
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  5. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Mar 2, 2005
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    05758, completed at the factory 16 February 1973.

    Marcel Massini
     
  6. MikeRSR

    MikeRSR Formula Junior

    Jun 22, 2009
    476
    Surrey, England
  7. 328dgtb

    328dgtb Formula Junior

    May 12, 2010
    327
    Scotland
    Full Name:
    David Goodwin
    Hello all,

    Not strictly a Ferrari question but definitely Ferrari connected!

    I have recently purchased Colonel Ronnie Hoare's 1968 Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow MPW 2 door saloon. He ordered the car new in Dawn blue with grey leather and I believe he was regularly driven by his chauffeur Pat Chapman on business between Maranello Concessionaires Ferrari and his F. English Ford dealership in Bournemouth.

    Does anyone out there have a period photo of the Colonel with the car?

    David
     
  8. Ianbts

    Ianbts Karting

    Nov 4, 2011
    94
    Nottingham
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    Ian Sterling
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  9. 246er

    246er Karting

    Jan 1, 2016
    84
    Herefordshire, England.
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    Chris Sherwood
    David,

    Here are 2 photo archives you can try:

    LAT Photographic - Haymarket Images

    About the Photographic Collection - The National Motor Museum Trust

    LAT have 12 million motoring photos in their archive!

    Good luck in your search. I reckon a current photo of the Colonel's RR would be of interest and relevant on this thread, particularly a special bodied one.

    Chris.
     
  10. torquespeak

    torquespeak Formula Junior

    Dec 24, 2010
    638
    UK
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    Ed
    Hi David, just to help the search from people who may have their photos tagged with reg plates in particular, was this car originally JVG 828G?

    -Ed
     
  11. 328dgtb

    328dgtb Formula Junior

    May 12, 2010
    327
    Scotland
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    David Goodwin
  12. 328dgtb

    328dgtb Formula Junior

    May 12, 2010
    327
    Scotland
    Full Name:
    David Goodwin
    #387 328dgtb, Aug 1, 2016
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    Thanks Ed,

    The car is currently temporarily registered as 6 RXM but as you say it was previously registered JVG 828G. However in the Colonel's ownership it was registered KFX 666G. There is currently an application with DVLA to register it back to KFX 666G. Here are pics as the car looks today:
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  13. torquespeak

    torquespeak Formula Junior

    Dec 24, 2010
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    Ed
    KFX plate makes sense as the 'FX' designation is for Bournemouth area registration (where, as you say above, Hoare had the Ford dealership).

    I don't know what history you have with the car, but the plate change to 'JVG...' shows that it was re-registered to a Norwich area address at some point.

    The switch from one Non-Transferable Registration Mark to another typically suggests that there was a cherished plate on the car (after 'KFX' in this case), then it was taken off, and for some reason was not swapped back to the original VRM.

    Does anything in the paperwork support this assumption?

    I understand that it was exported to mainland Europe in 1996.

    -Ed
     
  14. Mark Shannon

    Mark Shannon Formula 3
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    Dec 28, 2003
    1,237
    Surrey, UK
    Slightly more specifically, the KFX***G numbers were issued to Dorset between September & November 1968.

    The JVG***G numbers were issued as you say, in Norwich, but also between September & November 1968.

    If Ronnie Hoare did have it on a private number plate, hence the change, the above might suggest he only had the car a very short time.

    Don't forget to ask the RREC if not already.

    Mark


     
  15. torquespeak

    torquespeak Formula Junior

    Dec 24, 2010
    638
    UK
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    Ed
    Mark, would it not have operated how the system today works (or is supposed to work), whereby the reg plate assigned post-private-plate is given the correct model year designation?

    In other words, could a 'G' suffix not be issued much later, indicating that it was originally a 1968 car?

    -Ed
     
  16. torquespeak

    torquespeak Formula Junior

    Dec 24, 2010
    638
    UK
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    Ed
    I've received some info from the DVLA's policy team on reg plate issuing process changes in previous decades (this may be useful to any enquiry about old reg plates - not just the Rolls-Royce in question at the moment).

    Between 1974 and 1983, it's odds-on that any car registered in the UK for the first time (however old), or re-registered from a cherished plate, would have been given a current year suffix.

    From 1983, due to confusion about the vehicle age, it was decided that an appropriate age-related registration number would be allocated to these vehicles. Q plates were introduced for vehicles where the age could not be readily determined.

    Prior to 1974 - when regs were still under Local Taxation Offices - when a vehicle was permanently moved into another LTO area, many offices would require it to have a new registration number based on its original registration date.

    It is therefore most likely - though not certain - that the car was re-registered as 'JVG 828G' either before 1974 or after 1983.

    -Ed
     
  17. Mark Shannon

    Mark Shannon Formula 3
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    Dec 28, 2003
    1,237
    Surrey, UK
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  18. Long-wheelbase

    Long-wheelbase Karting

    Jul 20, 2004
    135
    #393 Long-wheelbase, Aug 11, 2016
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    Remember that car Mark, I remember who painted in red as well!

    Came across this photograph from circa 1987 of #43239 taken in Chichester, the driver-not his car -was Speedway rider Roger May
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  19. torquespeak

    torquespeak Formula Junior

    Dec 24, 2010
    638
    UK
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    Ed
    Every time I visit this thread I just think 'I was born in the wrong decade'.

    Oh to be a child of the 60s or 70s...!

    -Ed
     
  20. gt4me

    gt4me F1 Veteran

    Sep 10, 2005
    5,671
    UK
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    Lewis Mitchell
    That is just gorgeous!
     
  21. Long-wheelbase

    Long-wheelbase Karting

    Jul 20, 2004
    135
    I also found this 308 GTS QV from the late 1980's,but don't know the chassis number.
    The number is now on a Mercedes.
    Any ideas?
     
  22. Robert W

    Robert W Formula 3

    Mar 13, 2005
    1,471
    Oxford, UK
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    Robert Westall
    Er...did you forget to post the photo Mike?
     
  23. Long-wheelbase

    Long-wheelbase Karting

    Jul 20, 2004
    135
    #398 Long-wheelbase, Aug 13, 2016
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  24. dudlow

    dudlow Karting

    Feb 28, 2011
    194
    Surrey UK
    It was the fashion of the day, and it easy to be wise with hindsight.

    My first Ferrari, bought around 1986 was a white dry sump carbed 1981 registered 308GTB, no idea now on the chassis number but the reg was HSN 353W.
    I had it painted red, and ripped out the perfect black interior for a crema with red piping. In hindsight I killed a wonderful combination but at the time it was the dogs danglies !
    No idea where the car is now but I always fondly remember it.
    I did however buy another dry sump 79' GTB a couple of years ago (sadly in red), still got it, it is even better to drive than my fond memories - not always the case.
     
  25. jtremlett

    jtremlett F1 Rookie

    Feb 18, 2004
    4,791
    I don't know where it is now - not taxed or MOTed since 2011 - when it was in the Guildford area. Might have gone abroad. I last saw it at a Goodwood Breakfast Club in 2008. Still red with cream then.

    Jonathan
     

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