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2016 F1 German GP **SPOILERS*** Race Day thread

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  1. Isobel

    Isobel F1 World Champ

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    LOL , you gave me an opening. How appropriate.
     
  2. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

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    Man, this race was bad at all levels: boring, bad result for our guys and it even had more of that stewards crap. Can we ever have a race without controversial penalties?
     
  3. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    I'm not retarded, i know what I was talking about.
     
  4. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    You forgot to add -- the engine noise SUCKS! :)
     
  5. raider1968

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    Very boring -Indy was better
     
  6. ypsilon

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    That's whats debatable, and I do understand, but;

    Nico is comming from far behind, under braking he's slowing his car down so much so he's using up all the road. He hasn't exceeded the limit of what his car, brakes or tyres are limited to, subsequently only steering in wenn he's almost at a standstill. He simply keeps driving straight on, forcing Max off track.

    If he was affected by Max's move (which by the way I don't doubt he was to some degree, Max's move was agressive, or late, or whatever), but you would expect Nico to lock up, trying to make his apex, but he didn't, he needed far too much space, at a far too low speed, before he did finally turn in....
     
  7. ypsilon

    ypsilon F1 Rookie

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    Agree, although it was better than last week.

    But then again, everything is better than last week.....
     
  8. rotaryrocket7

    rotaryrocket7 Formula Junior

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    I'll meet you in the middle and say this, the move Max made by moving into Nico under braking definitely affected Nico...that said I think Nico still should have thrown the car in earlier and tried to make the corner. Would have made his position more defensible if he ran wide and Max had to move off track. What's frustrating is that dive bombing under braking is usually allowed, so I can't blame anyone who tries it, further Max has been very aggressive in defending in recent races, Hungary especially, and I think he needs a reality check.

    As for the race. I used to Love F1, I still watch every race hoping for something really engaging, like Japan in 2006, or Brazil in 2008, but it feels like such a processional. I really wish that the tire options would allow teams to choose a flat out pace run va. A tire management strategy and have equal opportunity. Right now it's just manage tires and pace, I want full on sprint racing back.
     
  9. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Too bad they aired it 3 hours before it was scheduled!!!!
     
  10. IamRobG

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    It really is a shame but sports cars of all different variants is more entertaining.
     
  11. freshmeat

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  12. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

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    then i hope you realize rosberg's own comments were in reference to his steering wheel...

    ...after a pathetic attempt of a "dive bomb" at 5mph lolololol. In hindsight, I wish max wasn't aware rosberg was coming and just kept turning in. a dnf for nicole would've been icing on the cake for hambone and he would've been laughing stock at his home gp...
     
  13. maulaf

    maulaf Formula 3

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    Rosberg said that because at that time where could he have gone?
    Again, he is approaching the turn. Max makes a not permitted move inwards, Rosberg has to brake later than planned (lift brake) and has to take a horrendously tight line.

    By the time he steps off the brake he fully locks the steering to the right. And that is what he was referring to.
     
  14. maulaf

    maulaf Formula 3

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    Well in that case there would at least not have been a debate. Verstappen would have received a penalty and Rosberg tough luck through an accident leading to a DNF.
     
  15. freshmeat

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    Unlikely, stewards being the same then rosberg would've probably gotten a penalty for collecting verstappen aka causing a collision and also a dnf. Because again max wasn't making a blocking move inwards he was turning right at a right turn! Lol

    Hambone would be thrilled.

    Horner summed it up nicely...
     
  16. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    God, some posters could at least pretend to be unbiased, lets not forget that if Mr. Hambone did a move like that the crowd would still be trying to claim that he was being racy, instead its Rosberg and I expect the crowd will be claiming everything from grid penalties to his being fired from MB. As said in the qualy thread the stewards are hardly "the same" they didn't penalise Hambone for an unsafe release Saturday morning, penalised a team for a drivers mistake and penalised a driver for a team mistake........ Cray cray
     
  17. freshmeat

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    Ya, that one was totally sketch. Never heard of a team getting nailed for unsafe release before. I guess even Nico's fatherland brethren stewarding the race like hambone more than him then lol
     
  18. MikeF

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    What gives? Race is supposed to be broadcast right now. Instead it's Mecum auction. NBCSN did it to me again!
     
  19. TheMayor

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    They are totally screwed up. They put the Indy race on 3 hours before it was scheduled, then put the F1 race in the Indy car slot, and now are running 7 hours of auctions.

    These people at NBC are total F -ups. They just don't care about their audience.
     
  20. IamRobG

    IamRobG F1 Rookie

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    You have to record every variant of F1 on every NBC network. NBC, nbcsn, cnbc, etc. I have direct tv and I have it recorded
     
  21. NeuroBeaker

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    Well, I'm no Hamilton fan, but the difference is that Hamilton runs people wide on exit (taking a natural racing line), whereas Rosberg tries to do it on entry (an unnatural line).

    I really like Rosberg, and he can be very fast, but his wheel-to-wheel racecraft is unfortunately lacking. He can sometimes plan things in advance and it works out great, but the instinctive reactions in the moment aren't right. :eek:

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  22. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    :)
     
  23. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Nicole did an almost carbon copy of the dumb stunt he pulled on Lewis ,pity he cannot learn from his mistakes ,could cost him the WDC. Worse still he cannot even admit his mistakes..he is in some kind of denial.5 sec penalty plus another 3 sec because his team can't use a simple stopwatch!

    Anyhow considering all the hi tec computers/ telemetry and hundreds of $Mio spent etc etc Ferrari still can't work out a strategy for Seb? The wheels really are starting to fall off the wagon now.Please replace Arrivaderchi asap.

    Max will be back,what a stunning move around the outside of Ricci at the start!

    Ricci great drive,the champers and shoe thing at the end was hilarious.

    Lewis just won.
     
  24. MalibuGuy

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    "It's like a nightmare isn't it. It just keeps getting worse and worse. Doesn't it?" Quote from the Color of Money (film)
     
  25. F1Nova

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    Not only are they managing tires, but managing fuel also. No one is racing balls out. They cant..they'll run out of fuel. Truthfully, I hate this era of fuel saving, tire management no sound processional racing.
     

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