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Is Hamilton one of the GOAT F1 drivers?

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  1. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I don't see the contradiction there.

    Can you explain why watching a GP live gives you more credential than me seeing it on TV, and makes me less enthusiastic about F1 ?

    Careful at what you say, because I would bet than more than 95% of people who follow F1 do it only on TV !!
     
  2. P.Singhof

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    Not putting words in your mouth, just drawing a logical conclusion of what you said...
    But maybe you did not indicate all that and just looked for a cheap excuse why Lewis lost 3 in a row although this would be impossible according to you, without thinking any further.
    Obviously a lot of people over here agree that "lack of motivation" is a very lame excuse...
     
  3. Jana

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    I'm a "real" F1 fan. Unfortunately, there hasn't been any real F1 in years.
     
  4. william

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    It's just a passing comment.

    How can one claim to be a fan of any sport, and then lose interest because the winner has already been declared ?

    Apart from the interest of watching the sport for itself, other competitors can still improve their positions in the ranking, etc...
     
  5. tifosi12

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    I'm not in the least surprised by that answer. It speaks for itself
     
  6. NeuroBeaker

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    There's more emotion, energy, and expectation in a race when the title is still on the line. It matters more.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  7. william

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    It's a bit like saying that watching a film isn't interesting because you may know the ending.

    What about the performance itself?
     
  8. NeuroBeaker

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    It's not that it isn't interesting when you know the ending, it's just that it's more interesting when it's not spoiled.

    Otherwise, what's the point of a championship if we just want to celebrate race winners as equally good as a world champion? Why do people get so bent out of shape about spoilers if watching a race is all about the performance and not the result?

    Arguing that championships don't matter to viewer interest or that spoilers don't matter is a futile exercise, William.

    All the best,
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  9. william

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    I honestly don't know that one.

    I abide by the rules, but I don't understand them.

    I often watch recorded GPs, knowing full well the result; it doesn't spoil my pleasure one bit.
    I want to see how the race unfolded to arrive at the result.

    I know it's a bit like saying that the journey is more interesting than the destination, but is that not what life is about?
     
  10. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    It must have been very interesting watching Lewis riding into the sunset most weekends the last few years.
     
  11. classic308

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    Practice day is limited in running. Simulators? Not the same. Not talking about the 50s-I'm talking late 70s through the mid-2000s when drivers tested often and gave feedback to the engineers ala Aryton and MS. Also no stupid token system. F1 has changed, and not for the better.
     
  12. william

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    In those days, the wealthy outfits used to have, independently of their race cars and technical team, their dedicated staff and cars for testing and development, and some - like Ferrari- had their own testing track too. In fact 2 teams: one for racing, the other for testing operating in parallel.
     
  13. TifosiUSA

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    Testing needs to come back. Of all the undesirable things to happen to the sport int he last 5-7 years, no testing takes the cake.
     
  14. NeuroBeaker

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    Well, you're in a very small minority then if you don't find the unknown unfolding before your eyes to be more interesting than knowing the result in advance.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  15. william

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    I may well be ...
     
  16. Bas

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    Exactly.

    It's always baffling to me how people can not understand that.
     
  17. furoni

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    this...
     
  18. kizdan

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    You don't read very well, do you? Go back and read my post, particularly where I wrote that I still watch after the WDC has been decided. For your info, I have not missed an F1 race since 1987.

    Logical? I guess that would be left to interpretation. Sure, all the Lewis haters agree with you. That means nothing to me.
     
  19. P.Singhof

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    When running out of arguments label others as haters...Not new, just poor...
     
  20. kizdan

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    That's it, buddy, keep trolling......do you have anything relevant to add?
     
  21. daytona355

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    Andrew, would you mind clarifying, are people now allowed to brand others trolls, or accuse them of trolling? I thought that was a forum no no? Not that I want to do it, but I just want to be clear as it seems to be a stock statement at the moment?
     
  22. TifosiUSA

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    Do you? Where do you rate Hamilton all time?

    That is not even close to true.
     
  23. william

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    Don't know who's trolling who here ... but never mind ...
     
  24. daytona355

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    Guess he's forgotten Baku and many other races! Nico and Elton are pretty evenly matched, except for eltons lack of respect for anyone else or the rules themselves, and of course, his own fans - couldn't be bothered to learn the track was the excuse at Baku.... Made himself look a total dipstick did elton
     
  25. tifosi12

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    You are the one constantly belittling Hamilton and his achievements. So when it comes to trolling, I'd say you're on pretty thin ice.
     

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