Turning my own wrenches

Well done!

 

Awesome!!

 

Nice teamwork! I need to show some love to mine as well. It's been on the lift for several months as well.

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Luke, glad you got it fixed, but did you read the codes before starting down the TCU/plugs/wires path?

 

I was kind of wondering the same thing. Even with it being OBD 1 with a little less refined diagnostics the CEL code should have helped send you down the right path or were there no hard set codes?

 

It's a very long story guys that has been going on for some time and I myself don't recall all the details based on the time frame.

I'm thinking Luke and I discussed codes (and reading them) but forgot details over the time. Luke was told by a shop the car was running rich so we took that at face value.

At less than $70 and an easy option, I suggested the O2 sensor. Yep - it was a guess based on the limited information I had and that seems to have solved the issue. And John, some of the guess was based on discussions you and I have had which I shared with Luke.

I'm certainly in favor of detailed diagnostics but Luke was frustrated and I wanted to see if an inexpensive attempt would work.

As Luke stated, he really does not do much of his own work by choice. He has different interests to us tech OCD guys and I respect that.

 

Good job! I would replace the other o2 as well. (I think of them as a regular maintenance item).

 

Nice job by both Luke and Dave.

 

Yeah. Good job, Luke! Do the pair if you haven't already. It's so gratifying being able to successfully fix on your own something that's been niggling at you for a while...

 

I have to disagree. Great it's fixed. Congrats to Dave for saving the day. But this is exactly how not to do it. TCU with no indication the TCU was an issue? (I read CEL, not SDL.) Plugs and wire for no reason. Mechanic who apparently didn't have a clue?

No, not great job. More like, thank God Dave stepped in.

Sorry, I get tired of all this patting one's back for screwing up royally, as if it's overcome something devious and contorted. I call it like I see it. Maybe you should start calling me John "Trump" k....

 

John - this is the best from my memory which is not so great these days (remember, I said from the start this was a long story and Luke did not post every detail)

- I recall Luke having an SDL and bank shut off - hence TCU - at the time of replacement, he felt it fixed the issue.

- Luke thought he had fouled plug(s) and did not know last time they where replaced - hence, cheap to install new plugs

- While replacing plugs, he pulled a wire as the boots where on beyond tight. I would have sent him a single wire but at that point he had already given the shop the approval for a new set.

- Car came out of shop and still did not run properly hence his frustration and the work done yesterday.

I myself would have preferred to touch the car but Luke does not live close to me. He was frustrated and I did the best to help him from a far and looks like it work (at least for now)

 

Wait, Luke works for the CIA?

No disparaging comments from me....

 

No, but Luke, Robb, and I may or may not have been detained and placed on a BOLO list for what may or may not be suspicious activity, near what may or may not be a highly secure government facility that may or may not be affiliated with The Culinary Institute of America. Allegedly.
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Good on ya, L.C! Congrats on getting it repaired. Enjoy the satisfaction of having done it yourself.

While it may appear to the uninitiated that you took a somewhat circuitous route in getting there, I don't think that's so much the case. Everything you replaced were wear items, and any or all of them could have been contributing to the problem. I'm not someone who advocates throwing parts at a car, but as a long time shop owner I can tell you that there are multiple contributing factors to a great many problems, especially on finicky cars that are not driven every day. Being both honest and a cheapskate, we've tended to avoid changing any parts that we can't directly access as being faulty, but that has come back to haunt us all too often when iffy related parts begin to fail shortly after the supposed culprit is identified and replaced. That may be acceptable, and even desirable, when an owner is just wanting to keep a daily driver running as long as possible for as cheap as possible, but if you care about your car and you're wanting to keep it in top condition you actually come out ahead in the long run by proactively replacing wear items.

In your case you learned some things about your car, you replaced only parts that wear out over time/mileage, you have the satisfaction of having done it yourself, and you almost certainly are out of pocket less than if you'd taken it to a pro (especially a dishonest or incompetent "pro"). So you're way ahead in many ways, and that’s a win no matter how you slice it. Nice job.

 

^^^This.

 

Not to make an issue out of it, I responded to what he posted. He posted CEL, not SDL, and I noted that so as to qualify my remarks.

I also disagree with replacing both O2 sensors. On my car I have had to replace the 1-4 bank sensor twice. Once shortly after a bought the car and once this year. I believe both failed due to a weak/intermittent coil pack that failed earlier this year, as you know. Though that's just an assumption. Car now runs great and the 5-8 O2 sensor predates my ownership w/o problem. Also the 5-8 coil pack is fine.

 

Yes, John and it's no issue. I had just stated it was a long story and the whole story had not been laid out

I also did want to suggest Luke change both O2's (I agree with you guys) but for the purpose of this experiment I did not want to see him spend more than he needed. And, Amazon prime is free shipping so he can now order another if he likes and he won't pay anymore than if ordering the 2 at the same time

 

Ah, driving at high speeds near the Culinary Institute of America, then stopping an whipping out your cameras to purportedly take pictures of your rides with the landscaping prominently in the background. Yup, that will get you on the bad list real quick.

 

No harm in a little healthy disagreement.

Should I have replace both coil packs? If one injector fails should I replace them all?

Make a list.
Check it twice.
I enjoy living
on the edge of the knife.

My car wails.
When it fails,
I'll pick up the parts
in buckets and pails.

Jeanne is in Utha,
I living alone.
I can't help it,
I'm bored to the bone.

(New 'scripts. Must be the drugs.)

And the still let me drive. LOL!

 

The o2 sensors slow down/degrade over time. Scope one that is new vs 20 years old and you will see the difference.

They should be replaced in pairs as maintenance, especially for how cheap they are. (but I agree doing one first for diagnostic purposes is fine).

 

Depends

 

Great work Luke and Dave. Glad to hear that the car is back on track. It is such a nice example.

Hoping to have our lift in the next several months up and operating as well.

Robb

 

I say good guess Dave. Any tips for lottery numbers?? Ha ha

 

Let me put it this way... If you want to replace them both (while not OEM Ferrari) I will send you a matched pair for free... They are 100% electrically compatible (Kia parts for the win).

Still you why would you not replace them with the best Chinese technology.... You trust your cell phone to work every day, don't you?

M