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  1. Visioneer

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    John, when did your GM career start?
     
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    mid '70's
    the 'dark era' of automotive design in the USA :eek:
     
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    Dark why? Poor executive decisions, lack of balls, playing it safe?
     
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    all the above + more

    the talent has always been there......just not properly utilized
     
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  6. Visioneer

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    How do you mean not properly utilized? Bad designs were selected instead of good designs?


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    Poor decision making by management
     
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    Would you say they are now making good decisions?
     
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    can't generalize
    IMVHO,
    some companies are doing a good job of promoting their respective brands, others not so much
    some design organizations are on a roll, others relying too much on customer/clinic input
    some design groups are stuck in a sameness, afraid or unwilling to push the design envelope
    others bordering on the wacky caricature school of design

    I'm not able to give you my personal assessment of who's doing what, but you get the idea
    besides it's just my personal opinion, and that's neither here nor there
     
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    Great reply, thank you.


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    The grill makes me think of Buick, not Mercedes. Not an unpleasant feature, but just doesn't fit in with their brand and is jarring to the eye with the rest of the design nomenclature. It'd look better on an American concept.

    The rear looks like a yacht/boat tail, not a car. Don't really like it.

    The bonnet is so ridiculously long compared to the rest of the car, it's like they looked at the Batmobile and thought... "Yes!". It's reminiscent of an impractical movie prop that nobody would ever be able to enjoy driving anywhere.

    The interior looks horrid. As I've lamented a few times about other concepts earlier in the thread, it's that glowing blue vodka bar sort of thing that I absolutely hate.

    Painted wheels, yuck.

    The rear window looks like an afterthought. I wonder if the original sketches even had a rear window. Really awkwardly inserted.

    If I had to say something nice about it... uh... erm... well, the paint is a decent shade of red. :eek:

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    Sketch to metal with all the exaggerations left in. It is a caricature of a car.
     
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    John,

    Your students have done much better low roof long bonnet concepts/models than that Maybach. Send them to Mercedes' design department to go fix the problem. ;)

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    Talk about 'heroic' proportions :eek:
    It does make an extreme statement, no question
    Like you the interior surprised the most, but I 'd like to see the actual car before coming to any conclusions.......
    Stay tuned, there is a Cadillac that will debut tomorrow at Pebble
     
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    lol - are you using "heroic" in the same manner that Sir Humphrey Appleby in Yes, (Prime) Minister uses "courageous"? :D

    All the best,
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    Heroic was the best adj. I could conjure up at the time ;)

    I can usually tell what the company sponsors are working on by the projects they give us in school.
    We did a Mercedes project awhile ago. I thought we had some pretty cool solutions.
    This Maybach is as Jeff pointed out, a very large sketch, with all the 'cheat' left in :eek:
     
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    An animated clip:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arK8d1MCMT8[/ame]
     
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    I like it!

    Thanks for sharing.
     
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    The exterior looks great - very powerful and civilized.

    The grey fabric in the interior is a bit odd. There are a few images of cars I've seen with that kind of effect now... is it a new trend? Otherwise, the interior looks pretty good too. A more traditional gauges cluster with real dials would be better.

    All the best,
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    I think everyone is looking for the 'next thing' in the interior
    what comes after leather? If anything.
    China will play an increasingly large role in what comes next, IMVHO
     
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    Leather saddles, leather chairs, leather armor, leather jackets, leather belts, leather wagon benches, leather car seats, leather plane seats... it's a durable, smart-looking, premium option and has been for hundreds of years. It's perfect for the job.

    In my opinion, there doesn't need to be a next thing after leather. It's a bit like they're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist any more and coming up short of long-existing solutions.

    All the best,
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