Miura, the original supercar

I thought Adam's was orange? Same car or?

 

Looks like he has two Miuras: an orange S and a blue SV. Are you mistaking the blue car for his orange S?

 

No, just for clarification, both his cars are P400S, both well-known to me.

The orange car is a 1969 Miura P400S chassis number 3967, originally yellow/black.

The dark blue car (shown @ Pebble) is a 1970 Miura P400S chassis number 4515, originally red/black, then yellow http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/139458436-post7457.html.

People can do what they want with their cars, but I was wondering how the selection committee at Pebble Beach accepted 4515, as my understanding is that re-bodies or cars with modified bodywork & badging in non-original colors are an automatic rejection.

Perhaps their standards have changed.

 

I was surprised to see Adams car at Pebble Beach too. I also did not think Pebble Beach would allow his car. I do know things used to slide a little at the Historics when a particular car was featured to maximize the number of cars there. Maybe that is what happened at Pebble.

Cheers Jim

 

It's not what you show it's who you know.

 

That's what I figured; wanted to clarify for the record.

 

Once again I may have to respectfully ask to borrow another of your Hall of Fame-worthy quotes

I think you should come out with a line of Italian Car tee-shirts!

 

Very sad to see this on the lawn. The red/gold P400S with a SV wheels had a dozen incorrect items/finishes. Engine bay tired and not diddly. Now I find out Adam's car was a fake SV? It also had incorrect finishes. I spend 5 months correcting a laundry list of issues at a great cost but my car the committee passes on. I thought the folks at the most important concourse in the world know what they're doing? The car did take 1st place in the SV class out of the cars displayed at The Quail, judged by two very knowledgeable judges, given out on Saturday night at a very nice gala.

Geno
PS The big wigs from Lamborghini chose the SV to pose by for the pic.
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

More pics
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Andrew's beautiful Miura
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

A rainbow of Miuras.
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Adam Carolla's Miura at Pebble was 4912 which is a real SV. Although he does have a similar S converted to look like a SV, this is not that car. He just recently completed the restoration of 4912 which was previously yellow with tan interior.

 

That's good to hear as it looked like the real deal. Great color combo.

 

Well that certainly clears things up. Is he going to put the S back to stock? Probably smarter to sell it and let the new owner experience the "joy" of that process.

 

Thank you for the clarification!

Perhaps after the 4515 saga, he realized the real deal is the way to go.

I also feel better about Pebble Beach not letting in the fake SV!

 

One of the highlights for me at Pebble Beach this year was seeing Jeff Meier's spectacular unrestored Miura win best in class, despite being judged against cars that had nut and bolt restorations. It even beat the recently factory restored green SV. Its owner is fanatical about its authenticity and condition and he also got the FIVA post war preservation award.
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Congrats, hard to preserve a car over 40 years in such condition.

 

I saw it being driven on the Pebble Beach Tour, and have seen this car many times over the past 10 years, and agree, it is spectacular.

 

Just based on the cars I examined, there probably wasn't a 100 point Miura shown anywhere, but I'd say there were many really nicely maintained cars, with enthusiastic owners, which was nice to see.

Of note, no one seems to be restoring cars by replicating the brushed on seam sealer applied to the front metal frame, which should be minus points for over-restoration, IMHO. In addition, many owners painted the center hubs and knock-offs, which I understand are supposed to be nickel plated. Can anyone definitively verify this?

 

Oh let's not go to the over restored place ...

None of these cars looked as good as those originally.

What I've heard is that the knockoffs could be just painted silver, or chrome. Per Valentino but ... I've seen period pictures with the centers painted black too. I don't know about just nickle though I do like that look. The thing to do is put on what you like and keep a spare set in silver for concours.

I also have a hard time believing the ten commandments as handed down by judges because I've seen a variety of finishes on original cars when it comes to the engine compartment mechanicals. I'm not talking about Miuras specifically but I doubt Lamborghini was any more consistent on that model than they were are on others.

The whatever was available at the time of assembly and whatever their suppliers used for a batch of parts certainly seems to apply. Chrome linkage and air cleaners maybe not! LOL.
Though the glass roof Espada had chrome plated air filter covers and gold lettering too! Probably done once it was here ...

 

Great point about the seam sealer!

I agree with Bob that there were a variety of finishes, you simply have to know what applies to a particular car.

Spinners could be nickel-plated, black-anodized, chromed or painted (silver for P400 & P400S, silver or gold for SVs). Center-hubs generally left the 'line nickel-plated but in many instances were soon painted.

 

Probably true about the variety. My experience is that all 4 of the Miura's I've owned had seam sealer on the front frame. All were 1971 or newer production. I suspect it was added to help the cars from rusting as quickly. I'd imagine that all SVs had it applied, but who knows.

 

Can anyone confirm this Miura is #4701, the Van Halen car? Looks very similar (apart from obvious colour change), including rims, wide body mods etc.

Photo was taken by my grandmother while holidaying in Florida in the early 1980s - she was staying with a family into cars (and remembers being driven around Miami in a Merak that repeatedly broke down) and took the picture at an unknown used car lot.

I've been trying to figure out which Miura it is for the past 30 years and figure this is the place to ask!

Cheers,
Damien
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

By coincidence I have recently become interested in this car, and according to an interview recorded at the US Smithsonian Talk on 02/12/2015, Eddie Van Halen says he still owns it today. See at 32.30 : [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuddpdSVh8I[/ame].

 

It seems to be #4808... Before being imported back to Europe, France... Now in lemon green instead of grey