I bought your leonardo/Galileo and now have a problem. How do I change the value of the "new closed clutch position" on 360 modena, 360 Challenge race car, and Challenge Stradale. None of the 3 cars will let me change the values. After I "write" the value , the value won't change at all(after waiting 10min, after self-learn). I asked italian tech support and I simply won't understand their english. Some of them tell me "it cannot be changed" Please help. Please check your email as well.
yea, warranty is expiring, so I post it here as an evidence, I don't want to get the warranty expired and all they'll say is :sorry, no tech questions will be answered.
I was away on Vacation last week. Warranty no warranty, does not matter to us we look after all of our customers. It is best for you to contact me directly at [email protected] or [email protected] you can even text me at 360 410 1949 if its an emergency. Accinni SRL's technical support has been closed for vacation since the 8th and re opened yesterday also. We have a training class on November 5th in Las Vegas at Speedway Sports cars at the race track which I suggest Leonardo/ Galileo owners take so the strategy of Ferrari & Maserati is learned with respect to the gearbox. Its one day $500.00 Davide Accinni is also available to technical questions via e mail at [email protected] Regards, Nick
If after resetting the new closed clutch, and the numbers don't change on the screen, head over to parameters, and check the reading there. You should see the change in that section. It seems to be an oddity in the software. My Leo does the same thing.
Hi, The right procedure is the follow: Go in adapting and coding and select "clutch configutaion" Read the clutch value Than write the new value on the right window Press "writing configuration". If the car refuse the programming you can see it on the upper window because Leonardo will write there. Now it is important to turn off the key for a minimum of 30 seconds. This is important because the learning is made by the TCU control is made when the key is in off. Than turn on the key and go outside of "adapting and coding" and restart tha comunication with the TCU by the button "ID" on the Leonardo. Go in adapting and coding and read one more time the clutch configuration or see this value in the menu of parameters. Let me know if you solve please.
hi there! the procedure you described is exactly what I did. Every step was properly heeded. But the value wasn't changed. it is still showing 18.xxx after I changed it to 17.
Hi, the value that you can digit can't be less that you read because the car doesn't accept. You can write a value that can be the same or higher that you read on the left window. This configuration must be used when you change the clutch and write in the internal eeprom a new starting value for the clutch wear. For that the car doesn't accept a lower value because you try to write a wrong starting position. To remember that you can't change the "closed clutch position/clutch position plate travel " because this procedure change the "new closed clutch position" infact you can verify that is changed on the parameters the ""new closed clutch position". That you want to modify is the actual position of the clutch but you can't change a reading of a value, is like you want to change a temperature value. If I am not clear like to explan the concept let me know. Please let inform me.
I finally understand what happened to the "new closed clutch position" It did change, but it will not reflect on the "left window". It will only show in the "parameters". Now what is exactly shown on the "left window"? Is it the "self-calibrated closed clutch position"? On my challenge race car, this "left window" number is 10.xx, which is significantly less than the "new closed clutch position"(16.xx). How do I make this right?
I try to eplain better how it works: when you change the clutch, the position reached of the plate of the clutch (that you read on the left window) will became the starting point for the clutch wear, so you read the position on the left window and write the same value in the right window. The clutch will begin the calculation from this point for the clutch wear. Infact if you compare the "clutch as new" parameters with the "closed clutch position or clutch position plate travel" you will have the difference in mm. of the clutch used. Eg. "clutch as new" 21 mm and "closed clutch position" 23,5 mm, the difference is to 2.5 mm and this is the thickness used. About your challenge car. Usually the "clutch as new" parameter must be lower that the "closed clutch position". This is very strange. Anyway check this both parameters and let me know: "closed clutch position" and clutch "position plate travel". let me know
Don't mean to got O/T but just want to say that I had a real nice discussion with Nick last night regarding a tool I am looking into. He is all about support - it's refreshing to chat with someone like this. Not to mention - he is a guitar player like me
Great explanation. Would you take a look at my parameters. Note that this is before I replace the clutch. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144806228-post19.html I will post parameters after the clutch replacement in 24 hours.
About the parameters you have sent the only strage think is the PIS because usually on these cars are about 5,00 mm and sometimes less than this. Your is over 6 mm. Another thing, the first operation to do when the reverse gear doesn't be engaged is to verify the primary revolution gear that must be to 0 rpm when the engine is running. If is not so it mean that the engine drag the clutch and is not possible to engage the gear sometimes the reverse. In this case or the clutch is broke or in not mouted correctly. It' happen. Send the new parameters when you have them.
The following are before I write the value to "10.00". For some reason the self-calibrated closed clutch position of the challenge car is 10.xx, which is significant less than other 360s I have ( others have 18.xx and 16.xx) Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
The following are after I write "10.00" to the clutch configuration. Subsequently I adjust the PIS to 2.4 so it runs correctly. ( PIS 2.8 is just too loose, the car won't move until 3500 RPM) I know the 2.8 is already very low to any standard, but it is just too big for the car. WHy? I am guess it has something to do with the 10.xx closed clutch position? I readlly don't understand why the challenge race car has so small a closed clutch position New clutch position sensor. New throw out bearing and seals New pull-back spring on the TOB Replaced a used clutch with similar wear ( measured with caliper) For those who lament why I want to replace a used clutch. It is because labor is free. I have some problem with the gear change so I just pull the gearbox and see what happens. I have a track day coming in a few days and it is too late to get a new clutch so..... Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
one answer, you told me that you have changed the bearing with a new one, have you remenber to put the magnet inside? In the new bearing there are not present and you need to remove from the old and insert on the new one.
That's what I was thinking. When I was doing extensive machine design, many air cylinders used Hall effects for positioning although I did not use many as I would design prox switches to pickup the actual mechanism movement but that's another topic
Yes, the pieces is that, remove from the old and insert in the new one. Pay attention to don't use any kind of glue to fix and to respect the towards
Clutch position sensor is not a Hall effect sensor, it is a Linear Variable Differential Transformer. Try to Google "LVDT"
Thanks, Eric. Halls typically just provide a single position where an LVDT is similar to a scale and can measure position over a range. Thank makes sense. Thanks again.