Horrible Experience with Norwood Autocraft! Beware of Bob Norwood

Sorry, done for you perhaps. In eyes of the law, it ISN'T done.
The "stipulation" of a deposit is pendiing approval. He didn't approve based on information he learned without coming to see it. So, he wants deposit back. You won't send it. He didn't BUY anything, and your time was not a "stipulation" of the deposit.

Anyone that does business like this is a moron, just from the standpoint of tying up loose ends.
Hope your new buyer backs out too.

OP, find a nice 308 that's original, and let it appreciate. This POS is a depreciating turd that they'd ask more for if it was worth anything like what they hint.

 

He knows and he and his minion have posted in this thread. Their arrogance here is what sealed the deal.

 

We tried to make you a deal and you kept refusing. Your plan was to low ball us the whole time

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So he should spend another thousand or so and waste his time to see what you already admit is the case, the car was not as represented?

 

What a shame, I am speechless...

 

OK, let's say that's true (I don't know Schulz, maybe that was his intent all along). So he offers you $80K. You tell to go make love to himself and give him his deposit back. End of story.

 

None of us know what truly took place.

But for the seller to keep a paltry $2,000 deposit, shows exactly the type of person he is.

 

So keeping the deposit is: 1) the lowball penalty; 2)because he didn't come see it; 3) because it wasn't as represented; 4)because you got different sale going on and the $2000 just bumps your profit?

 

OH boy... this is going to end well.

Any jury is going to have one person that was screwed by a person keeping a deposit.. just 'cause. That and the bad faith put forth in this transaction. Unless there is a game changer that wasn't presented here.. that $2000 is going to cost Norwood more than expected on fchat reputation alone.

 

You going to keep on drilling holes in the boat you're floating in?

How the hell do you and the guy who's name is on the boat not get what a hash you've made of this?
Grew up reading the Norwood name in magazines. Wouldn't do business with you now if you were the last performance shop on Earth.
The thread is now forever enshrined in Google's memory and maybe soon Norwood will be a chapter in somebody's book on running a business into the ground through sheer arrogance.

 

TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS.

Norwood guys.

WRITE THAT 100 TIMES ON A BLACKBOARD.

$2,000.00, is that what your reputation is worth? TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS? Really?

I know, I can hear you saying to yourselves, "It's the principle of the thing."

Maybe, end of the day, Norwood is up $2K, sitting back thinking he's right about this one. Maybe even thinking, "This is the way we've always done it, never been a problem before." Or, "No website weenies are gonna push us around, we're within our rights."

Too bad, $2,000.00 isn't usually a ton of money, but this $2K could end up being pretty damn expensive.

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Yup, thats really the point.

Doesnt matter who is right and who is wrong.

A business should refund the deposit. Thats what I do, even if i feel im in the right.

 

This.

Doesn't make one iota of a difference who was right and who wasn't, especially in this day and age of social media/internet.

To me, it wouldn't matter how big or small my operation is. I would give back the money AND throw in a $20 gift certificate to Starbucks. Times have changed.

 

You didn't accept our deal on the fake parts we were selling... So we will hold your deposit as leverage until you accept. If that doesn't work we will tell everyone that you low balled us and that was your intent... (I have never seen such poor logic. You might want to consider a different career. Clearly you lack the ethics or skill to be doing this.)

I think the Buyer should consider letting Norwood keep the deposit after the Buyer wins the PayPal dispute. The Sellers Sound very desperate...

 

They weren't fake parts. So do research before you post.

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Very well said. One of the many ironic things about this thread is how the tide of opinion changed. In the beginning the OP was fighting against a faceless Norwood with a long standing positive reputation and the F-Chat community was not really buying it. Had Norwood shown up at the time and returned the deposit they could have really looked like heros and their legend would only have grown. Instead, as it was, they insisted on not only digging their heels in that they were they were right but also almost gloated about the car being sold to someone else and the OP not having a leg to stand on the deposit. Talk about grasping defeat from the jaws of victory with the real value being that all us F-Chatters got to see how Norwood behaves when things don't go his way. It is easy to walk the talk when everyone is happy but an entirely different thing to man up when you mess up. Mr. Norwood just give the guy his deposit back and try to re-build some of your reputation.

 

They weren't as represented or you wouldn't have sourced the correct wheels for an extra 15K

 

We were willing to go the extra mile. We dropped the price. What Mr. Norwood told Mr. Schultz was that he bought the wheels with the body and subframes from italy. He never told Mr. Schultz the wheels were originals.

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So is that deceit by omission?

 

You have already admitted to guilt earlier in this thread. You acted as though it was a typo if you recall... That the wheels were aftermarket and not Ferrari. Does this sound familiar? Unless of course you are trying to tell everyone compomotive made the wheels for the 288 "prototype" and Bob happened to be there to buy them...

Maybe you should look into selling bridges? After this thread and your responses you may have more success...

 

Bigred...can't see what is happening here?
Are you blind?
This is building into an Internet legend thread right in front of you...and you guys are 100% on the losing side of it...yet you keep typing.
The damage Norwood has already incurred far far exceeds $2000.
Our company has a 7-figure marketing budget...can you imagine undoing all kinds of "branding" for a paltry $2000?
We spend millions $ on positive branding...if someone were undoing it for this amount he/she would be "crucified" in our company...fired at the very least.

 

He doesn't get it.

 

FIFY

 

Well, I'm giving Norwood the benefit of the doubt that he doesn't know his agent is still stirring the pot.