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  1. Newman

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    #276 Newman, Aug 30, 2016
    Thanks Pap, its awesome to drive a restored one. Everything is tight and clean.
     
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    #279 ///Mike, Aug 31, 2016
    That brake pedal box and booster are beautiful and too pretty to hide. Needs to be on display somewhere.
     
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    #281 boxerman, Sep 14, 2016
    What psitons are those, something newer? have you upped the Cr ratio?
     
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    #282 Newman, Sep 14, 2016
    Custom pistons with larger pins, asymmetrical and a higher ratio.
     
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    #283 PAP 348, Sep 14, 2016
    Cheers mate, hopefully I get the opportunity to drive one one day. :D
     
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    #284 afterburner, Sep 14, 2016
    May I know what the black paint on the lower portion of the piston is for? I have never seen that. Thanks for your enlightenment!
     
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    #285 2dinos, Sep 15, 2016
    Wow! This IS pretty!

    Speechless :)
     
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    #286 turbo-joe, Sep 15, 2016
    this "black paint" is a special coating to reduce the friction
     
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    #287 PAP 348, Sep 15, 2016
    Teflon coating I am sure. Newman will tell us for sure.

    Here a few different style of coatings on pistons these days.

    Piston Coatings - JE Pistons
     
  13. Newman

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    #288 Newman, Sep 21, 2016
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    12 pistons in and heads ready.

    Recording stud sizes, thread depth in casting and exposed thread length is critical and there are so many studs that are close in length that if not recorded you're screwed. Note two studs of the same length but very different where it counts.
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    #290 samsaprunoff, Sep 21, 2016
    Indeed, removing, cataloging, and reinstalling takes a fair amount of time... I only did a portion of the studs on my BB's EO service and I have a whole new appreciation for the effort and attention to detail (studs, fasteners, washers, etc) this all takes...

    Cheers.

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    #291 Dave rocks, Sep 22, 2016
    Hey Paul, were the Boxer studs Yellow Zinc originally? I ask because on my 355, they are Cadmium (silver) I believe.

    Also, may I ask what method you are using to clean up the aluminum cylinder heads? I've considered soda blasting but am hearing some not so good things.....
     
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    #292 mikael82, Sep 22, 2016
    when you open hexnut after factory, like gearbox side covers, you can see original yellow plating under.
     
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    #293 jjeffries, Sep 22, 2016
    Paul, here's a stupid question: do you remove all those studs via simple double-nut process or something more fancy like a Snap-On collet tool? Best, John in CT.
     
  19. Newman

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    #294 Newman, Sep 23, 2016
    The newer stuff is clear cad like on the 512M and TR engines with some yellow zinc as well. And as mentioned above when you remove a stud you can see the portion that was in the threaded hole still retains its original finish in most cases. Some of it is also just common sense when you cant identify what it was. I did find that some studs are a different colour that are to be in a specific location such as some bellhousing studs where the locating dowels are. Most likely for the assembly line person's benefit.
     
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    #295 Newman, Sep 23, 2016
    Not stupid at all, I have a collet with a variety of inserts for the different sizes but the odd time I do have to double nut if access is an issue.
     
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    #296 Newman, Sep 23, 2016
    Depends on the casting. Don't blast the diecast parts that for sure! The boxer stuff is sand cast which you can blast but I never use soda. Most times Ill use a chemical cleaner and a brush.
     
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    #297 Dave rocks, Sep 23, 2016
    On my 355, the color can be seen and determined without removing the studs as they are not that bad.

    I was recently tip off to a plater that might be able to do some of the less common stuff so I need to give them a call.
     
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    #298 Dave rocks, Sep 23, 2016
    Thanks. I've had great success with glass beads on sand cast and die cast parts. Low air pressure and not staying at any spot long works very well. But these are all parts that can be easily cleaned to remove 100% of the media. See my thread in the 355 section - excellent results.
     
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    #300 dwhite, Sep 23, 2016
    Paul what tool do you use to torque the 20mm nuts in the valley cyl 7-12 side. I had 2 which I needed to take off and retorque, what a pain to get 90ft lbs. Engine looking like it's ready for the red carpet.
     
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