Countach, the ultimate supercar

Curiously the 1985 Earls Court Show Jalpa GLA12272 was Bordeaux Nuovo. I have three images and the colour looks identical to that Downdraft. They are not mine to post so here is just a corner of one of them!
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I'm RELAX, king of cool, don't worry !

oh yes we disagree often but remain friends, no offense, no discredit and no insult


BTW, correct me if I'm wrong, but do you remember to have published a "comment" about Ferruccio's Countach some years ago on The International Lamborghini Registry ?

 

So it would not be right if I did not throw my 7 1/2 cents in here

First off, I have NO IDEA if this car was born, Red, White, Green or Pink...

What I do KNOW is I can recall SO MANY times, that when a issue was in JOE'S favor in regards to records, he would ALWAYS come back with the same answer..

"We all know how BAD the factory kept records...."

OR

"You cant trust anything being true to record at the factory, changed parts, names and colors etc etc.."

So with JUST those comments in the past, why would those comments not hold true here in this situation...I would be more inclined to go with those thoughts as has been MANY MANY times stated.

The factory records are 1/2 and 1/2 at best. Anyone can read from a so called sheet and just re-state what is printed...and just re-stating what is printed has been proven NOT always to be correct or relied on 100%.

As to the other issue, I for one could care LESS what color it was, or even what current condition it was in....

IF IT was operated by and owned by the one and ONLY man himself that started this company, yes there is NO QUESTION IMO, that car holds greater value and historic importance over ANY OTHER Lamborghini...JUST for that fact alone.

I can tell you, if I drove up on the lawn in Mr Lamborghini's car of record against ANY OTHER Lambo...the public would want to hear the story of his car over anything else...its History. No other Lambo vehicle is as historically important as the one he drove and owned..PERIOD.

OF COURSE....All stated with no dis-respect to anyone as I remain calm.

Not sure about the being friends still part LOL

AND of course just IMO..

 

Agreed

thank to raise the finger in order to share my opinion, too often I feel "alone" some support is always welcome...

Thanks to remain calm... LOL...

 

READ the whole SENTENCE, dont take it out of context.

When you read it as a WHOLE, not just the section the works for you...

It CLEARLY talks to not KNOWING the COLOR it came in,.....JUST as you have NO WAY to confirm what it came in.

Only by records that as YOU YOURSELF have said many many many times..are the most in-accurate you can get.."the factory did what ever they wanted and seldom the records were reflective are accurate"....remember talking like this??

BUT NOW you want to say, IN THIS case they are 100% ACCURATE???

Very interesting that you want to Po Po this car and replace it with YOUR car being the MOST IMPORTANT Countach of the variant....

SORRY but it AINT.. NOT by a LONG SHOT.

Its just another pretty DD QV...nothing more nothing less...a very very nice car it is, but not as important as Mr Lamborghinis car...UNLESS you want us to start a petition to change the Company name to Sackeyborghini??

AND I BET my bottom DOLLAR, if you had possession of the Mr Lamborghini White Countach, you would CLAIM IT TO BE the most important...

Many times your posts are somewhat slanted and hidden in their language...but this ONE, its series of posts..COMES OUT LOUD and CLEAR to everyone that is reading it.

Oh and I guess this answers the friends part and respect and calm etc etc..

Your response to me was un-called for and derogatory in nature as well as degrading and trying to be a bully with its condescending tone and language.

 

I prefer to respect my sources...

 

Here is an example. This car is shown as Grigio Londra on the handwritten lists. Yet it has ALWAYS been Luci del Bosco from new. To the best of my knowledge ALL THREE Grigio Londra cars were Luci del Bosco. I cannot explain this but the conclusion must be that the handwritten lists are not reliable and should not form the basis of any rational discussion!
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I believe that is just an opinion... LOL

Unless you want to post the list here and the owners birthdate, home address, phone number, girlfriends name and a few other things...

after all "the community has the right to know" what are you hiding??

LOL

 

Your opinion is neither valued nor humble, of course that is MY honest opinion...Just more "Bully" type control if your "so called" statements are questioned...

 

As usual, you have gone off the reservation when getting questioned on your thoughts and or postings.

I view the DD thread multiple times a day. Why. Because as I stated myself in that thread several pages back, I think the Countach you are having restored is stunning and I enjoy, as many do, viewing its progress and its work of art.

HOWEVER, this is NOT what this back and forth today is in regards to. It was MY simple thoughts and returns as to the POST the Countach that is MOST significant... which you seem to claim is yours that is currently under reconstruction. I made my IMO post that Mr Lamborghini's was, NOT based on what color it was born, as I stated I dont know and dont care...I posted based on its HISTORICAL importance to the brand...

You are more then welcome, as I am, to post however you feel about any Lamborghini. I did not POST any FACTS about the color of the car, as you are attempting to do with out any documentation to support it. I am just saying what I think about the car based on my thoughts and YOUR past thoughts that you have posted as well....

SO let me make this perfectly clear AGAIN..in simple language you may understand...

The color of Mr Lamborghini's car makes NO DIFFERENCE IMO to its historical significance...which AGAIN IMO is MORE significant then your DD. Your car a Stunning car yes. Beautiful car yes. Fantastic updates in the thread yes. Will be a stunning car when done, yes.... BUT it is NOT more significant then Mr Lamborghini's Car...PERIOD...

AND please keep in mind...

Your Countach's life matters

Mr Lamborghini's Countach's life matters

My Countach's life matters

I Guess ALL COUNTACH LIVES MATTER

 

another opinion in between yours and Ivor's...

I agree : hand written lists with mistakes don't mean whole informations is not correct...

But : "" to say the car was born the first color is legitimate! "" I disagree, because the car is not born with a dealer's order, it is born when it is manufacturered by the contractor, painted, pre assembled and deliver to Sant'Agata where the factory was putting all mechanical stuffs. In between the dealer's order and the start of manufacturing there was sometimes 2 to 3 months, even more, and the color could have been changed... on the paper, still not of the car ! Sometimes, the color was changed during the manufacturing at contractor or later at Lamborghini, even 3 days just before Delivery....

Some of the color mistakes in the list are not matching the 1st choice of color during the dealer's order and cannot represent how was born the car , as we don't know how many times some cars have their color changed during the process of manufacturing from the contractor up to the Delivery to the dealer !

 

Olivier,
I was told the story of Ferrucios car by a club president, I personally saw the car only once in 2003 at La Fiorita, at that time it was not in a nice shape.
In the pictures in the ILR you can see me on the second picture and my step son holding the drivers door on another (strut has weak).

What I find strange, in the factory lists important customers are named explicitly even unimportant like the silver S2 for a swiss client delivered via Emilian Auto, why not in the case of #1121164?
Since the Mimrans had no problems with Ferrucio and he never said a bad word about the Mimrans.

Also, Umbria has different plates than Roma, in the wine yard this Countach was the only one carrying Roma plates.

In Lambo history many wrong stories were told, even in the latest books it's told that only one Jalpa Spider existed, on the jalpa homepage you can see the contrary, 2 spiders side by side in the factory.

For me the red WW LP400(s) was always the ultimate Countach, since without these one-offs for WW who knows what would have happened...

 

To go a bit more into details, these are the valid plates in Italy:
Roma Roma Latium
TR Terni Umbrien
PG Perugia Umbrien

Lago del Trasimeno is in Region Perugia, therefore all cars should war PG-Plates, not Roma...