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Countach, the ultimate supercar

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  1. roytoy2003

    roytoy2003 F1 Veteran

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    FANTASTIC!! Then share it with the community and you get another gold star LOL

    If you have such evidence, share it with us, what do you have to hide?
     
  2. roytoy2003

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    I think you should just listen...after all your opinion means nothing...at least thats what you want to say about my opinion..so yours is of no value as well....if it is, can you please explain why your IMO is any better than any ones else, after all it is just a IMO.
     
  3. roytoy2003

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    Glad we agree as I first stated Joe..thanks for that...so why attack me in the first place that I know nothing, WHEN you say the same thing..LOL

    As Joe has written a few posts back....

    "Nobody really cares what color the car was, or is,...."
     
  4. joe sackey

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    Another useless & irrelevant post with no value whatsoever to the discussion about determining the original color of a Countach where there is conjecture.

    Regardless of what some may assert, the color assignation for 1121164 has been a matter of discussion amongst insiders for years.

    The FACT remains that you contribute ZERO here, have done for 10 years, and continue with that trend. That's not my opinion, its just the way it is.
     
  5. joe sackey

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    Attack?

    Don't be silly :rolleyes:

    WHO on these entire Lamborghini boards is known for initiating the attacking? http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144382915-post1088.html

    There is a simple premise that is obvious: LEAVE ME ALONE AND I'LL LEAVE YOU ALONE :rolleyes: :)

    Only a glutton for punishment or a drunk person would not understand and abide by this.

    To the extent that you keep baiting, jabbing, and making remarks, I'll continue to respond with a good verbal smack-down.

    When you don't play fair, you get what's coming, sort of like Ortiz at the end of his Mayweather bout :) look it up, I know you will for sure.

    I must confess, I do love debating you, so, my philosophy with you as far as I'm concerned is: BRING IT :D
     
  6. joe sackey

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    You are obviously clueless as to what I'm alluding to, as your post underscores.
     
  7. roytoy2003

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    LOL

    Thanks for reading my posts in the entirety and responding...

    It is nice to be recognized and included in the discussions...

    I WOULD really like you to SHOW ME and ALL here.... and POST it as well... where in this thread I STARTED attacking you...I simply made my 7 1/2 cent IMO post..THEN YOU the SOS you are, started off how I dont count..etc etc etc...and it went down hill from there..after YOUR attacks on me AW
     
  8. joe sackey

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    Don't flatter yourself, I barely read your posts as they are all the same, have no useful content, and I know what's coming.

    Resorting to name-calling because someone has stood up to you wont help your cause, I suggest you get back to trying to sell those Countachs you can't sell, because you do nothing here that helps anyone :)

    As far as attacks, what can I say about who ALWAYS instigates them?
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144382915-post1088.html

    That's not my opinion, its FACT :D
     
  9. Sant'Agata

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    Strange, i heard it was recently in the paint shop.

    Well Joe, maybe you should talk to the previous owner.
     
  10. roytoy2003

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    As is ALWAYS the case when you are challenged... YOU fail to stay on point and answer the question..so AGAIN, please post, SHOW all of us WHERE you where first attached by me...YOU cant be cause it did not occur...

    Name calling? PLEASE again...show us ALL where that has happened..

    I know its hard to play in your sand box as KING when others want to show and tell you they dont want to play by your rules only.

    GROW UP
     
  11. joe sackey

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    Happy to be corrected if you can post some documentary evidence that supports that Miura SV 5028 was built for and/or owned by someone prior to Ferruccio.

    As always, received wisdom is welcome, and I bet the community would love to be enlightened.

    Its one thing to post up factory documentation, its quite another to continue to make assertions proven by absolutely nothing.
     
  13. roytoy2003

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    Yes that's what I meant.....but STILL you have not answered the DIRECT question...the past was the past and has moved on..SHOW me and EVRYONE your claim that I ATTACKED you here in this thread....

    What do you have to hide??
     
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    you guys. Ha ha
     
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    Amazing how big the Aventador looks
     
  17. mt_jt

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    New school metaphorically still living at home with the parents, me thinks!
     
  18. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #22893 Olivier NAMECHE, Sep 30, 2016
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    As Emilio said, it is good to debate because we bring our enthusiast's contribution !


    I will not argue that #5028 wasn't built for Ferruccio, nor about its color... this is not the debate, it is legitimate about the way ""on how to make demonstration"" !



    1) Because you ask others to demonstrate, allow me to return you the question to demonstrate :

    can you - Joe - post here some period documentations that #5028 was built for Ferruccio and delivered to Ferruccio the 25/05/1972 ???

    Please avoid to start by : " the whole community knows for years..." we will be all glad - me the 1st - to discover dates on some period original documents, for instance like an original factory productionsheet... or any other factory period documents mentionning it was built for the Commendatore or Cavaliere or Ferruccio or Lamborghini, or anything else specific as I'm not limiting the sources, I'm just curious as you were in the rethoric previously developped.



    2) Here is another context : Following your thought in the previous topic about ""Ferruccio's Countach"" and the information written in the Countach handwritten list (the scan I made) leading you to make your own conclusion, we all understood your opinion, not shared by all, nor convincing everybody believe me... but I respect your demonstration.

    Please take now the Miura delivery list, the one you have reproduced in your book...

    following Raymond's attemtp (that you supported widely) to demonstrate Ferruccio's Countach delivery location in Roma instead of Panicarola could lead to doubt.... but also the delivery to the SEA dealer instead of reading the "VIP" Customer's name like it was for some others top customers... a weak argument in fact... leading you to doubt a second time.

    Now my question : Allow me to ask you in comparison of the 2x lists : Countach vs Miura, why don't you consider what is written in the list about #5028 ?

    Telaio #5028

    Motore #30723

    Bertone carrozzeria #715

    Colore : Rosso Corsa / Bleu

    Consegna : 25/05/1972

    Cliente : Lamborauto

    Apparently here you are not bothered that #5028 was delivered to Lamborauto (in Torino) instead of Bologna (where Ferruccio was living back in 1972) ?

    and you are still not bothered by the missing mention "Ferruccio Lamborghini" on the far right colum, since it is written Lamborauto, exactly the same as in the Countach list where is written SEA Roma.

    with the Countach list you & Raymond demonstrate these évidences as the reasons to doubt but with the Miura you skip them, can you clarify specifically on this facts from the Miura vs Countach list ?

    thank you in advance for your time & consideration to reply !
     
  19. Sant'Agata

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    Olivier, you took the words right out of my mouth!

    Btw, I don't understand what all the Miura talking is doing in the Countach thread.
     
  20. Olivier NAMECHE

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    #22895 Olivier NAMECHE, Sep 30, 2016
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    Joe mentionned Miura #5028 as the ultimate Ferruccio's car compared to Countach #112.1164, I didn't ask him to mention this, he took that liberty in the Countach threat !

    He openned the door to use "his" example to continue the comparison up to the end... now speaking about the errors/mistakes or the missing stuffs in the factory lists typed or handwritten... that's where all started in fact... the factory lists, so we come back to them having done a loop, yes, but it was necessary...
     
  21. joe sackey

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    No I can't.

    That's why I said: "Happy to be corrected if you can post some documentary evidence that supports that Miura SV 5028 was built for and/or owned by someone prior to Ferruccio" http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144951498-post22887.html

    I'm not the one making the assertion that 5028 was not originally owned by Ferruccio, so I don't have to prove anything one way or another, that pleasure belongs exclusively to Sant'Agata, who so far has posted ZIP to back up his claim.

    When I posted that I think that 1121164 was originally "Rosso", that's because I have a handwritten list, from the factory, that says, "ROSSO". But I didn't have to post it, because you already did!

    You'll notice how Ive brought the discussion back to a Countach for the purposes of the Countach thread :D
     
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  23. joe sackey

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  24. Lambocars666

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    Both of them look fantastic!!

    Excellent! Please, keep us posted. ;)
     
  25. Michael Call

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    Is that 12666?
     

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