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Discussion in '308/328' started by Archer911, Oct 2, 2016.

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  1. GordonC

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    #26 GordonC, Oct 3, 2016
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    Doubtful - it replaces the hose section that connects the filler to the left tank, but that's more than 2" diameter. The filler with nozzle restriction would still remain the choke point.

    Here's my Euro fuel filler - essentially just a 2" section of pipe straight down into the tank, no nozzle restrictions of any sort.

    If you look at the parts manual pages via www.ricambiamerica.com , here's the fuel pump and pipes TAV 11 page for the QV US http://www.ricambiamerica.com/car-diagrams/ferrari/v6-v8/308-group/308qvus/fuel-pump-and-pipes.html - item 40 is the US fuel filler, part number 115680, $256.95. For the Euro QV, TAV 9 fuel pump and pipes http://www.ricambiamerica.com/car-diagrams/ferrari/v6-v8/308-group/308qv/fuel-pump-and-pipes.html , item 40 is part number 109321, $186.55 (incorrectly labelled as "fuel filter")
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  2. johnk...

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    I just wonder if any one ever looks around for other sources. For example fuel tank filler hose can be purchased at NAPA for $17/ft. Other sources have it for half that. I don't know it would fit, but for sure, metric sizes are around if you look.
     
  3. vaccarella

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    #28 vaccarella, Oct 4, 2016
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    Exactly this. Angle the nozzle so it's parallel with the car body and you can fill a lot better. At most stations, I'm on ~3/4 "throttle". Don't try and overfill, stop when the pump stops. I don't see much point in switching neck hoses. It really doesn't take much time to fill up.
     
  4. Andy 308GTB

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    I fitted the Superformance piece a few years ago (£9.95).
    for what it's worth, the 30 year old piece that it replaced showed no signs of deterioration.
     
  5. dflett

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    I put in an order to the UK for parts today... I got an exchange rate of 1.28 USD :)
     
  6. vaccarella

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    :(

    Maybe I should sell my Cali 308 straight back to the US :D
     
  7. Archer911

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    I've had 2 other cars where this was a problem. A Mazda RX7 Turbo and a Toyota Highlander hybrid. Both were bought new and first year models. It didn't always happen but it happened enough. The RX7 I sold for my first Porsche so I don't know what the solution was but the dealer called it "vapor lock." The Highlander had its filler neck replaced and that solved the problem.

    Now I would think that not all 308s are the same—especially after 3 decades of service in the hands of experts and monkeys. Could it be that the problem I am having is due to some kind of vent line obstruction? I've looked at the diagrams. I've looked at the car. There may be a reason....

    The filler neck, although not euro spec, is certainly of a diameter to accept a reasonable flow rate of fluid. In fact it seems no different than my Porsches or Mercedes. Hmmmmm, maybe something is causing this back flow of gasoline other than external factors?

    It took me 10 minutes to put 5 gallons into the car. I've been pumping my own gas for some 42 years so I know how to finesse a gas nozzle in cars, trucks, UTVs, ATVs, generators, boats, etc.

    Having said that I have owned a 308 for all of 2 weeks and I am sure some of you are more knowledgeable about these Italian exotics. It's always good to learn and I am looking forward to the solution.

    Again thanks for everyone's input on helping a fellow 308 owner parse through the issues of ownership.
     
  8. mwr4440

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    IF you have an injected car, replace all the plastic fuel lines too. At least one is likely bad to very bad.

    You can get them at a very reasonable price from "Unobtainium" (Verell) a member here.



    Any parts that are OEM from another manufacturer, it is usually cheapest to get them from THAT manufacturer.

    Fuel related goodies for example, just "hit" your local Bosch place.




    Ferrari only makes a very small selection of the parts of these cars.

    The vast majority of the parts come from someone else. And very often, that someone still makes the parts ...... brand new.

    Ferrari's real claim to fame is that they just arrange them differently. :D
     
  9. Archer911

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    It is fuel injected and I have just found out that the lines in question (cracked) are not available from the usual suspects. I'll check out your suggested suppliers.

    That line about Ferrari arranging the parts differently is priceless!!!! You ought to copyright that and make t-shirts and bumper stickers.

    Thanks for the wisdom.
     
  10. mwr4440

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    If you are referring to the plastic lines between the fuel distributor and the injectors and the other places in the fuel system that, that "plastic" line shows up, here is the website for model specific kits.

    Unobtainium Supply Co.—HOME


    He took the steps necessary with the actual OEM company to Ferrari to get them to sell to him. They will not sell OTC to just anyone.



    NO Affiliation. Just a very satisfied customer.
     
  11. andyww

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    I have quite a bit of the black nylon Cohline tubing in both the required sizes, which I dont need so could supply some if I have enough.

    I didnt find any problem sourcing this here in the UK.
     
  12. Archer911

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    The problem of the slow fill/no fill gas tank has been solved.

    I had noticed that the flexible lines #66 and # 68 in Table 11 were cracked and not looking good at all.
    Replacing these made a difference and I was able to fuel the car (before the breakdown) with 10 gallons of gas quite rapidly.
    The replacement line used was marine grade fuel vent hose available from marine supply houses.Cost was under $20.

    Thanks for your input everyone. I hope this post helps someone in the future.
     
  13. ClydeM

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    Is there a crush washer there?

    Franco: And now my friend, the first-a rule of Italian driving.
    [Franco rips off his rear-view mirror and throws it out of the car]
    Franco: What's-a behind me is not important.

    I had no trouble with birdman fuses at any auto parts store.

    Your mind can rest easy now. though check all the fuel lines condition for other damage
     
  14. Archer911

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    ClydeM -
    The crush washer is present.
    I did put in the slightly lower value fuses the were available.
    All fuel lines will now be replaced.
    That's my favorite line from The Cannonball Run
    Thanks for your response.
     

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