Lusso V12 or Lusso T

Hey Everyone,

was hoping to get a bit of guidance or at least people view points on these two cars. I have had a V12 Lusso on order for some time now. However, the launch of the new car has got me thinking about whether I should opt for the v8 instead.

I usually only keep my cars a short while, get a few months enjoyment from the car, moving the car and losing very little in terms of depreciation.

My issue is do I go for a V12 which would probably arrive mid year, keep till the end of the year or scenario 2 would be to go for the cheaper V8 option, however this would most likely be available 6 months later, taking me to the end of the year. Ideally with either car, I would like to get out with the littlest pain felt in terms of depreciation.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Thankyou in advance

 

My thoughts are these

The Lusso T will make the Lusso more rare. This could make for less depreciation.
There will be sold more Lusso T's due to lower buy-in price hence they will most likely flood the market faster and lose value quicker.
One is a V8 TT - one is a Ferrari V12...

What will make you more happy? A V8TT with no RWS and no 4RM system, or a naturally breathing V12 with RWS and 4RM system?

Buy the car with your heart - it's a Ferrari.

 

Hi Ab,

I would prefer the V12, however, there needs to be a little bit of sensibility coming into the choice, because I have both a speciale and an F12 currently with 488 spider imminent, my 488 gtb was returned to the dealer a few weeks ago.

The question was asking because of this reason..

Thankyou

 

V12. V8 wouldn't enter my mind for a second.

 

+1

 

Cars are usually easier to sell in the spring/summer so selling then might help with depreciation a bit. Other than that, im not sure there will be much diff in % between the V12 and T.

What is the delta between a V12 and a T in MSRP (all else equal)?

 

V12 NA says Ferrari. Turbo ?

 

Not only this, but Ferrari is much more limited in V12 production which means the V12 will be more rare.

 

Andrew,

i believe it'll be round the 15% mark. Lusso T will be 15% cheaper than the V12 variant. Difficult choice, however off to drive the V12 in Mont Blanc later this month. Which may make the decision a little easier.

 

I am a V12 fan all day and further to that I am a front engine Ferrari fan, I find the mid-engine cars too tight for frame. Understanding your dilemma I think its really a tossup because nobody really knows what the allocations and market will look like come time to sell. On a side note, if its the V8T in the 488 it may be a winner, if its the one in the CaliT (HS) it will be fast but lest responsive and snappy - a miss for me. Go with your heart!

 

V12 all day.

 

V12

 

+V12

 

Isn't it the same V8 in both CaliT and 488, just tuned differently along with a little bit of internal change?

 

Yes and that tuning makes a world of difference IMHO.

 

nowadays every NA V12 engine is a treasure, I think most enthusiast will go for V12

 

Yes, i would say go with the V12 and the AWD.

Is there a waiting list for either? If not, maybe you can agree on a trade in price with your dealer on the upcoming F12M?

 

Looking at how keen my dealer is with me not sure there is a huge list (not to be confused with production delays which there are) and maximum pressure and dealer incentives from Ferrari to move them.

I think the world and especially emerging markets are not what they were.

Feels a bit 2007/8 to me.

 

It does feel that way now to be honest...

Grim news about the pound today... Brexit is making people nervous...

 

Ferrari sold as many FF's in Saudi Arabia and also in UAE as they did in Europe. With oil price/production not being favorable many will be sold elsewhere but some of those countries are more apt to buy V8TT's making the V12's rare.

Also fuel mileage and emissions legislation in many countries may force Ferrari to cut V12 sales to those countries to meet requirements.

Lastly Ferrari's ability to produce V12's is 6-8 a day and the new F12M being slated to start production in (late) 17.

 

You can't do this with an FF/Lusso. You'll lose 50K within a few months.

 

if theres a choice V12,,,

 

I am not sure it's Brexit, just that the capitalist economies are a huge ponzi scheme and the social settlement between people and governments has collapsed. Governments are out of levers and have lost control. Take the UK where someone who diligently saved say £500,000 in their career would get an annuity at retirement of £15,000 a year.

And automation will kill jobs for the bottom 15% - just imagine truck drivers and taxis, gone within 10 years, max 15. They will need to be bought off.

Goodness knows where this all ends, so just better enjoy I suppose.

 

Agree w noone1, if you main focus is limiting the depreciation, you are looking at the wrong model. All 4 seater Ferraris have been the worst in terms of depreciation...


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If you want to keep the Lusso for a short time then IMO you should get
the first available V12. The longer the Lusso is on the market the steeper the
Depreciation curve. So early in - earliest out makes most sense