I'd kike to do a story on a Fisher Body contest winner who also is in the AFAS but since the contest ended some years ago, do you think any former contest winners who will be there are also Automotive Fine Art Society members?
Today's Ferrari Design post car still looks awesome 45 yrs later! Pininfarina Ferrari 512S Berlinetta Speciale (1969) 777: Pininfarina Ferrari 512S Berlinetta Speciale (1969) - Car Design News Image Unavailable, Please Login
So... I just learned today that every single rolls royce car ever built is twice the height of the overall diameter of the wheel and tire. Pretty crazy... but at the same time they have never had questionable proportions either. Does anyone know of anything else like that? Is there any standardization rules that some manufacturers adhere to? (beside infiniti always making ugly cars, and Japanese interior color always having a slight green hue)
There is only 1 rule: 'there aren't any rules' ! no standardization rules having said that, yes some studios adhere to formulas or 'rules of thumb' that help develop proportions sites like cardesignnews.com analyze new car designs, and one of their criteria are a proportion analysis in terms of how many tires is the wheelbase, how many tires tall is any given design etc. remember......it's an art, NOT a science!! Login - Car Design News Image Unavailable, Please Login
ohh for sure I completely understand that. I was just wondering if any of those in the know knew of any consistant design rules that manufactures enforce (such as the rolls royce rule)
BMW have their Hofmeister kink, Ferrari have their round taillights, Lamborghini now have their Origami Folded Surfacing and Chrysler are employing VHFS, short for Visually Heavy Form Shaping.
Land Rover design discussion: First Sight: Land Rover Discovery (2017) First Sight: Land Rover Discovery (2017) - Car Design News
Might have to be a subscriber for access to the photos, but here is the text: First Sight: Land Rover Discovery (2017) 06 October 2016 | by Andrew English First Sight: Land Rover Discovery (2017) Controversy has accompanied the launch of the new fifth-generation version of Land Rover's Discovery unveiled at the recent Paris Motor Show. The seven-seat Sport Utility Vehicle's design, overseen by Gerry McGovern, Land Rover's design director, has dispensed with the utilitarian style characterised by the split tailgate and distinctive rear backpack used on previous models, which have sold 1.2 million examples in 27 years of production. P1090466 Instead highly refined surfaces, previewed by the 2014 New York Show Discovery Vision concept and the smaller Discovery Sport model predominate. McGovern acknowledges that traditionalists might not take to the design at first, but defends what he terms his magnificent proportions by saying that the Discovery design, which has remained largely unchanged for the last 12 years, needed to move on. This [previous Discovery] was very much an industrial-design product approach, he said, which was good for the time, and I'm a big fan of it, but I don't think it's appropriate to continue that kind of look... [besides] people won't accept big panel gaps any more. P1090475 Dropping the split tailgate has caused much comment, with even Mark Butler, Land Rover's creative director for interior design, acknowledging that internal discussions about this move were full and frank. The old tailgate was an asymmetric drop down lower section which could be used as a seat, stand or picnic tray, and a top-hinged tailgate above, was partially motorised, was difficult to engineer and build, and a potential warranty issue. It was affected the design of the vehicle, as Butler explains. There were advantages, he said, but on a day-to-day basis there are issues. From an exterior design point of view it limits the amount of plan shape you can have at the back, there are reach issues and there's not that much protection from the weather. The focus for us, then, was how we could bring some of the benefits of the split tailgate back in. So the new powered inner tailgate does that work for us, we also get the plan shape, and we get the load retention and reachability. I know there will be people out there who are split tailgate fans, but I think we made the right decision. P1090469 McGovern's refined surfaces for Land Rover haven't met with universal approval in the past. His DC100 design studies in 2011 for a replacement for the out-of-production Defender model received a deluge of online protest, much of it from existing Land Rover owners, resulting in the two concepts being quietly dropped. As is the way with design criticism, much of it is whispered in dark corners at motor shows, but the cover of the post-Paris Auto Express magazine, questioning whether Discovery has lost its rugged charm, puts it as well as most. Even Dan Ammann, General Motors president, paying a flying visit to the Paris Show, acknowledged that there is a gap opening up between what Land Rovers can do and what they look like. He'll have an interest in the fate of the Discovery as GM's European marques, Opel and Vauxhall will launch three new SUVs in the next three years, the first two based on a collaboration with PSA Peugeot Citroën for B and C segment vehicles and the third full-sized SUV to be based on a North American vehicle due in 2020. The Discovery's fate is important, nearer to home, however, and not far away in the Paris Show halls were two companies which would happily eat Land Rover's lunch in this market sector, koda with its new five and seven-seat Kodiaq SUV and Korean 4x4 maker SsangYong with its LIV-2 concept, a barely disguised version of next year's Rexton replacement, a handsome seven-seat SUV with a towing capability of 3.5 tonnes. Johng-Sik Choi, Ssangyong president and chief executive, has been open in his desire to emulate and take on Land Rover is far eastern markets and has commissioned work from Italian carrozzeria Pininfarina to perk up SsangYong's somewhat dowdy design. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Awesome! Thank you for posting that! I really appreciate it! I know I have said it a number of times... but I think they "missed" on this truck. Its not bad and it will sell. It just looks like all of the other jelly beans rolling around. They took a neat niche vehicle that only needs to sell in niche volumes... and turned it into a jelly bean amongst jelly beans. It had a unique look and heritage. Now wiped completely away with its only homage being an asymmetrical license plate box. To add insult to injury... the homage is even misguided as you really only saw that shape when you put the previous cars tailgate down... and now it is exposed. Im not sure that the only design feature to carry over was a hidden one and an asymmetrical one at that. "face palm and shakes head"
Are there any successful car designs on the market today that haven't been the result of developing them first as clay models? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
whether or not you consider Lamborghini a 'success', they are proud of the fact they don't use clay in their process, or so they've stated in the media pretty much all the major mfg. are designing in both digital/clay, the amount varies by company As VR gets better & better, I'm guessing some studios will eventually dispense with the clay process, others believe in the 'hands on' clay development only 1 rule........there aren't any rules...whatever works
I'm of 2 minds on this one......I actually like the design...........unfortunately it doesn't say Land Rover to me so in that regard, it's kind of a fail but I would also say the avg. LR customer probably doesn't care I see so many of those around where I live, and I check out who's driving them......they won't care
can't remember, but I think many of the carrozzeria stopped using plaster as late as the '80's - '90's, but again, every studio is/was different with their skill sets and facilities the use of plaster by the Italians was from their long history of using it in the fine arts & the artisans that had been using the medium for 100's of yrs. Clay wasn't introduced as a design medium until Harley Earl & General Motors started using it in the late '20's, although there is some debate whether there was the use of clay as a design medium pre GM Art & Colour era. Car Styling Magazine documented auto design durning the '80's -'90's I should probably go back & look through those issues to see where the Italians shifted from plaster to clay.......that will be my homework this weekend
stay tuned.....the Chinese are coming: New Car: Xiaopeng Auto Electric SUV - Car Design News Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Lamborghini is in the process of redesigning the look & feel of their dealerships https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/first-dealership-new-corporate-design?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=LB_27_2016_10_07
Hmmm... interesting. It's actually sort of what I would have expected the Second Generation Honda HR-V to have looked like instead of how the Second Generation actually looked. Here's a picture of the First Generation Honda HR-V. All the best, Andrew. Image Unavailable, Please Login
make no mistake the Chinese are planning on doing what the Japanese & Koreans did in 1/2 the time They will be a force to be reckoned with
Maserati should get its own hypercar, based on the LaFerrari Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Those two cars were quite different from each other both visually and technically. Then Maserati took it racing and was very successful. But I don't see the need to that again. I thought this was an interesting design. Of course all the mechanical design would be from Ferrari as Maserati doesn't the staff or resources to start completely over from scratch. Why would FIAT waste such a resource? Making the Alfieri instead with their bespoke capabilities seems like a better idea for their future ... But that's not why I posted this here.
