corrosion

These are the buttons that hold the rotor to the hat. the car is barely 4 years old. so much for driving it in the snow.
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Salt is a nasty thing ! F12 or FF ?

 

FF and if we cant source those little pieces ill need to replace both rear rotors. fun.

 

oh and btw my radiator needs to be replaced

 

Not good. The publicity shots had the FF messing around in snow. Not good at all.

 

yeh and the car is always parked inside a temp controlled garage, cleaned and detailed as needed etc. i was surprised to see that. Figure of 25k miles maybe 20 percent has been in the winter and 10% in true snowy conditions.

 

Keep us posted.

 

if FNA cannot source those parts, I'd try and get your parts guy to call Brembo directly

what's up with the radiator? Corrosion as well, or did you take a rock hit?

Snow doesn't hurt the car, it's the brine, salt and grit thats put down, and then your car goes through multiple freeze-thaw cycles. Sucks for sure.

 

If you don't hand spray the wheels completely after any day in the salt, don't blame Ferrari

 

tommy passalaqua has the car so I'm in good hands. not sure about the radiator - was more interested in the brakes lol

 

Just wondering why you thought it would look any better under those conditions.

 

Car in great hands. Worrying state of affairs....

 

This!

 

Did the buttons just fall off by themselves? Or did you unbolt them?

 

when it snows its usually below freezing. water freezes below 32 degrees. so if you drive in zero degree weather and try using a hose inside a heated garage you usually end up with a bad situation.

This.

 

car is being serviced, they did not fall off

 

The reason for using salt unfortunately does not fit conveniently with the idea of "spraying the wheels". Unless, heated garage with internal drainage and whatever other requirements are required to prevent a skating rink in sub-zero temps.

 

+1 on this one.

After reading all the replies it looks like you have the build a special garage to be able to keep the wheels clean on this car if you live in a snow zone! Ridiculous!

 

Exactly right. They made an AWD car and offer snow packages and offer snow driving courses..... And this does not address the radiator... The car is now with a qualified technician.

 

Using ceramic brakes for winter driving is going to be expensive if salt is used extensively on the road as it was where I am originally from Montreal. There is a constant layer of salt on the road even after it melts the snow, until the heavy spring rains. I would just take off the ceramic brakes and replace with steel brembos ( around $10k ) rather than have to replace the ceramic discs ( $40k ). Also the traction control during icy or snowy conditions will cause your brakes to wear more quickly. The performance difference will be negligible on cold roads because of cold tire traction anyways. When you change your tires to winter tires you could swap your discs and calipers. It'll be way cheaper in the long run.

 

Im not complaining. I pay to play. My point was more geared wrt this car was sold around being able to drive it like an suv. 5000 miles of winter driving isnt much.


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What about hosing the underside, wheels, brakes and caliper outside when everything is cold? Then take a short spin with heavy braking to heat up the braking components. After that, park back inside the garage. That's what I do during the winter.

Hopefully Girodisc will have steel available as they have for 360/430/458. I wonder if those Girodisc for 458 is compatible with FF.

 

But aren't you then exposing the car again to the road salt and other road grime?

It just seems winter is rough on these cars.

 

Indeed, there is no way to avoid the salt fume when you daily drive the car when salt is present everywhere. I guess the idea is to cut down the amount of salt especially after heavy use of the car on road with visible salt.

During wintertime, I don't do anything other than hold the hose end with a good attached nozzles and spray all those areas mentioned, plus the wheel wells. Of course, the car exterior gets a simple rinse, too.

Salt from wintertime is probably no different from living adjacent to the ocean. For those cars, the exposure is year round. No point in keeping a garage queen.