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Indeed, Joe! In my opinion the preparation for the new paint is probably the most difficult job in the whole project. It is very difficult to find and fix all the small details and create perfect surfaces and edges. I have big respect for the guys doing this job perfectly. It needs a lot of patience and skilled eyes and hands. Properly done the whole process is taking months.
Before that we had to adjust all the gaps. I was consulting a lot of pictures to align the reflectors correctly (if something like this exists) Image Unavailable, Please Login
Dani, I'm no expert, but I thought the position of the red tail light frames, and the aluminium panel underneath where constrained by the existing positions of the holes in the tail light aperture flange, and the corresponding holes in the aluminium panel and the red frame... Also, if you think the interior floor etc is one piece, how do we explain these?: New OEM Fiberglass Floorpan Liners for 25th Lamborghini Countach | eBay Although I accept they're 25th.... K9
Dear K9, 1) If you have a look at the first pictures of this thread you will see that this FI car was delivered to the USA. This means it was equipped by the factory with the big tail panel. So the factory never fitted the red tail light frames. This is a first time installation. There is no guaranty that the red tail light frames will fit exactly. 2) The lower centre aluminium panel was exchanged against a new part. This has an effect on the shape of the tail light aperture flange and all the related gaps. 3) If you remove the rear quarter body panels (fenders) you will find out that they are extremely flexible when not riveted on the tubular frame. If you work on them and manipulate with them they can easy get deformed. They also tend to crack. If this panels are installed back in place it can happen that you have to adjust them. Especially if you want to create exact panel fit and gaps. If you have a look at all the pictures in the relevant threads on this fantastic forum you will find out that there are tail light frames that fit exactly and some that do not. Some are vertically centred and some are aligned to create a equal gap on the lower contour of the rear quarter body panel (fender). I am pretty sure the factory was installing the red tail light frame in a way to create an equal gap on the lower couture so we did the same.
Dear K9, I am not exactly sure what you want to tell me. I do not think to know but I know that the interior floor panels factory installed on my cars are made from one piece. Until today I never had 25th car in my shop so I do not know from how many parts the 25th floor panel consists.
Love your progress,I vent thru this taillight process on my car,altough the ali back plates I got from oem ,the red lenses where cut by my cnc guy, (not avail oem at that time) happy to see you are sharing my opinion reg reproduce some of the old fiberglass parts, keep the pictures coming. Thanks
Dear K9COP, Dani is doing what the factory did, except the Sant Agata plant had a huge jig that served as a template to standardize the aperture so it would conform to the reflector panel. Dani is simply doing the same thing, but in the old-school way. As already noted, the rear quarter body panels are flexible before they are riveted on the tubular frame, and, you need precise positioning before you set & rivet them in place. Even when the panels are installed in place adjustments are necessary to create exact panel fit and gaps. This is not a plug & play situation! Dani is also correct that some cars as delivered by the works have lenses that fit better than others! In our own restoration we did our best to optimize the positioning of the lenses. Hope these comments help. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Joe, thank you for the explanations and the pictures. Inspirited by the factory body jig we were building a smaller jig. This jig is used to precisely align the left and right quarter sections. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Exactly. Pursuant to that, you still have to adjust the lenses within the aperture. Anyone who has not done this will not realize how much work is involved! Some factory cars have the lens in-situ with gaps that are less than optimum, but the worst offenders I have seen are the USA spec cars which have been converted. Bravo for going to all the trouble, its what you need to do to get it right, plus its what the factory did.
Dani. Are these Lamborghini part number tail lenses? Do they have in cast reflections,or plain red acrylic? Must be an item supplied by various company's during the 17 years of production,have seen different versions.thanks
Ellagirl, as I understand it, the red tail light frames are cut from flat cast acrylic, (part #'s 007043001 and 007043002) and the earlier cars did not have the extra reflector under the centre tail light lens, but later cars did. The tail light frames for the later cars have a recess machined out of them for the reflector to go in to. Having said that, I'm not sure if it's market specific as well as age dependent. The small rectangular reflector is a separate Carello part, part #006319022, yours for a mere $108.75 each! K9
Joe/DaniT, just coming back to this thread. I was not, under any circumstances, challenging what I saw, I was asking questions. Can we not come here to clarify and expand our knowledge? I hear what you're saying about DaniT doing it the correct factory way Joe, but what I've seen so far, he's putting 100% MORE care in to these cars than the factory ever did! You make a good point Joe, assuming 'plug and play' (like I did) with a car like this is a fools errand. K9
Your comments were both well-taken & welcome, I simply wanted to share my learned knowledge, and yes, the factory did not put in this much effort.