2016 FORMULA 1 MEXICAN GRAND PRIX RACEDAY **SPOILERS**

Agree..it was a scandal...the guy was "miles" ahead everyone else upon his return to teh track.....what a way to prevent himself from being attacked..of course this is old news for Elton..the only time someone had the balls to do anything about it was Spa 2008!!

 

How I wish Enzo were alive and calling the shots. Yank the team for the rest of the season and until the FIA get their sh*t together. They'll never bring back the kitty litter, so four wheels off, then you're out, period! Equal for everyone instead of this inconsistent, half-assed penalty charade!

Yesterday's race only reinforces the reason I watch F1—for Ferrari. I wish they would withdraw so that I can stop the Sunday madness.

 

these penalties are ridiculous!

If the FIA wants to start changing the race results at least be consistent with it and hand Hamilton the same penalty for his first corner.

The whole Verstappen thing is starting to remind me of the Senna days when the politics greatly favoured Alan Prost.

Vettel even whines like Prost!

 

I think an easy and appropriate way to resolve every issue in this race is to fix the ability for these drivers to drive way out of the envelope, completely blow the corner by a dramatic margin, and simply drive back onto the track at their leisure without even a scratch to the car or a tenth of their time.

I'm a Max fan, but how many times have we seen him just all over the track as he drives beyond the capabilities of either himself or the car? Yesterday was a joke. What bothers me is that Max is so defiant. Normally I dig that, but when you're clearly outside the rules... or even what's traditionally accepted... you should just smirk and "yeah okay... I was out of bounds on that one." It would show a little maturity on his part. He seems to be worried about his perception and wants to adjust his radio style, but maybe if he would have been able to admit how bad that off track excursion was... it'd buy him a bit more respect. Instead, however, he doubles down and actually blames everyone else. I hope he grows out of that.

Vettel... I like the raw emotion. Telling Chuck to F-off is as unfiltered as it gets. Everyone criticizes the drivers for towing the team line and saying the "right" things... but then when you have a driver lose his sh*t and speak his mind... he's a baby and a whiner. Can't have it both ways as fan either.

I'm starting to warm back up to Ric... I think the Max competition has put things into perspective for him. The incident between him and Vettel should've never happened. If Max would not have driven so wildly and went that badly off track... and of course there's no downside to doing so... the situation would have been much different. By not giving that position back... that forced the situation with Ric. Sure Ric probably would've caught Vettel... but I would have rather seen that fight instead of Max... who we all know was going to either have to give that back or get a penalty... artificially create a fight.

Overall.. incredibly boring race.

 

Bernie asking for 'danger' via walls is not a bad suggestion at all. Not much of yesterday would have taken place had the visible deterrent been in place. Things are way to free right now. Ricci has a great attitude about what should happen if you make a mistake....you pay in some fashion.

 

Glad someone finally told Charlie to **** off, the guy is a clown.

 

Lewis is clever and I really mean that...He worked hard for this status quo in the last years...
He repeatingly played the race card when it came to penalties and he is loud enough on instagramm/twitter to be heard so stewards might think twice before they come under suspicion to be racists. That is called "politics" and achieving an advantage offside the track. Prost did the same (certainly not with the race story ) and he was respected for that...And when you look at todays F1 politics is just as important as it was when Prost was driving, you have to have the stand on and off the track.

Verstappen on the other hand should be happy that he never drove against Senna because you can be sure he would teached have him a lesson...Ask Irvine, Schumacher and many others.

 

I sense some dual standards here: in Rugby that sort of challenge to authority would result in at least a yellow card - even soccer might charge the player with bringing the game into disrepute - l have no doubt the NFL would give the player a ban - why do so many posters here think this is different ?

 

We don't even need walls. Big Styrofoam boards across the little grassy field so they can't speed through it. Lewis (and Verstappen) would've done the right thing and go back onto the track before T2, they'd have been penalized as well because that takes time. Job done.

 

Do you think race control did a good job yesterday? No double standards, just glad Vettel was able to point out their incompetence.

 

Prost never received a worse outcome when he complained about Senna.

Of course, Prost NEVER uttered (being kind with that) " F--/ JM Balestre!"

 

Another great idea that adds essentially zero risk but will prevent cutting the course. Those guys will not cut the course if it means blowing up their wings and everything else on foam.

 

He didn't get penalized for telling Charlie to **** off. Charlie decided to penalize him for "moving under braking".

I wouldn't be surprised if he were fined, etc.

 

I dont what damage they have to endure. Stay on the track to race. WE love Monaco dont we LOL

 

No doubt.

Bas' suggestion is particularly good because there is no safety counter-argument for the *******; ehr I mean people ; )

 

Yes of course that was the reason. Honest. Nothing else. Just purity of the application of rules. That must be it. Yes indeed. Complete lack of emotion. Nothing to do with radio comms... which the FIA has complete and unilateral authority to vet and decide what to broadcast. And let's not forget how complicated the decision process must have been for it to take 3 hours...

 

Bingo

 

Agree, Ferrari should skip the last races and tell them to **** off..i would like to see how happy bernie would be without them..with only half the people watching!!

 

If I was Vettel and heard they were planning to ban me, I'd tell them to **** off again, and announce my holidays for the last two races, and let them see what happens when ferrari bring mark gene out to go through the motions. It's disrespectful to ferrari, and f1 in general the bull**** and stupidity exerted by race control these days. Bloody farce

 

Just looked in to check the thread. OMG.

My two cents' worth is that the race officials must not know how to drive. When you make your final approach to a sharp "slow" corner, your best line is to brake late hard, ease up and turn in sharply so as to turn your front wheels at the slowest speed without sliding and then accelerate as you go past the apex.

Vettel did exactly that and left enough room for Ricci to still take the inside but he would have to brake for it. There was no overhead video but to me he only had to clip the kerb slightly and you can see Ricci did brake hard before Seb, dust flying. So Ricci was prepared for the tight corner. Ricci then appears to move into Seb's line while Seb continues to follow the line he chose.

Really, I don't know what the race judges are thinking.

 

While I agree with you that the process was probably not honest, I think you are more likely looking at RB flexing its influence than Charlie retaliating against Vettel. But who knows...either way it's crap. The race is the race. Fine or suspend or add pts to his license after.

 

Welcome to the WWF1, keep it close for the final race to allow Hamilton to steal the title in a storybook ending, awe thanks Charlie it just warms the heart, hugs and kisses to Vince McMahon as well.

 

I have another idea, maybe a bit extreme.

If Ferrari is aggrieved that Vettel has been penalised unjustly and demoted to 3rd place, after decisions from the stewards, why don't they threaten to boycott the 2 next GPs in protest

At this point, they are not in the chase and have very little chance to overtake Red Bull in the WCC.

We could then judge if Ferrari really attract the crowd or not. In Mexico, for example, people wearing Ferrari regalia were half the audience. Imagine if the tifosi don't turn up at the gate for the 2 last GP this year.

Maybe that would bring the officials to their senses ...

 

+1

 

Bernie and the FIA won't let that happen at Abu Dhabi as it it one of their chosen races, I can see it happening in Brazil and then Bernie might be able to kill this race that he has been trying to get rid of for years.