'Official' F12M Rumours and Launch

This ALTAIR press release talks about next-gen structure:

Altair Collaborates with Luxury Sports Car Maker, Ferrari, to Develop ?Next Generation? Vehicle

Specifically, "Next Generation architecture, it has an organic nature, with the structure flowing smoothly from sections to joints" with reference to sections and joints, implies, in my mind, that they're sticking with aluminum for next-gen.

As already noted, though, the F12M will probably not be a "next-gen" car, but rather a refresh, albeit an extensive re-do as per the recent trend with Cali T, 488 and Lusso.

First "next-gen" car will most likely be the 488 replacement.

 

The design was discussed by Ferrari a while back as aluminum and configurable for mid or mid-front engine as well as V12 and V8. Agree that F12M will not be new chassis but same as the current.

Caeruleus - I hear you on the displays. Its about the passenger. This year I was fortunate enough to be a part of a rally where we spent 8 hours in the car and 500 miles. My passenger plotted the course on her mobile gadget and handled all the navigation and traffic information on her favorite app. She had a wonderful time predicting routes, checking our position in the group and watching the mountainous vistas and, of course, holding on. Never turned the radio on. The V12 sounds were quite fulfilling. By the way, I learned a lot about my car as the transmission began to predict my driving habits (would be interested in hearing comments of others that did a challenging full day ride).

So I think these days that passengers love their up-to-date connected devices and any dash implementation would become stale very quickly and ignored especially if they are streaming audio from their device. The dash on a Ferrari flagship supercar should not look like a video game IMVHO which is what would happen to the F12x if additional TFTs were added. You'd get touch screens, bigger screens, more screens and then virtual everything. Just like all the other cars. Just my .02

 

I remember that. Didn't remember that it specifically said the new architecture would be aluminum, but the assumption at the time is that this was the case.

 

If i remember correctly the new modular structure could be aluminium or carbonfibre at will.

 

Adding the v8tt sounds like a true downgrade for the F12. But heck, Ferrari need to sell more cars and this might help them... also does make the F12m less desirable....

 

Will from Drive asked me very politely to publish F12M renders. We agreed he will publish those, mentioning my username and FerrariChat since those renders are product of our discussion on this thread

I had this doubt too, but after analyzing latest Ferrari M model, my renders are aimed in direction that Larry mentioned in his post:

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Ferrari is small-scale factory, and currently they can afford CF tubs for limited models production. Large scale CF production is still far-away plan for them.

 

I know they are unreliable sources, but I would be interested to know who has heard what from their dealers.Mine has no info other than probable release at Geneva 2017.

 

I hope that's true. Maybe word will filter out once our dealers return from the worldwide dealer meeting at Daytona Beach December 1.

 

Same here, I was with the dealer a good half an hour a few days ago digging away.
He confirmed the launch as Geneva next year, and said he did not know anything else.
To me it seems they are being a bit more protective with this car for some reason. Soon even private factory tours will have to place in a box, phones and cameras before tour, or so I was told!

 

Is there any chance that the car could actually be down in FL for private viewings? Maybe Peter can chime in on this one...

 

Thanks ingegnere, that is an excellent find and although purposefully vague seems to back up what we learned from this article:

Ferrari plans hybrid models and new common architecture | Autocar

There is a nice picture in the article and here is the pertinent language:

Solid State, you make an excellent argument and you have convinced me that you are right. The only counter point I can make is these days buyers of cars want screens and they might be necessary, if only as a selling point.

 

Render on that link is very nice and agressive, although I am not completely sure about those headlights. That render is based on F12 TRS.

If Ferrari decides to go with more aggressive approach on F12M, I would like to see something like Sp Arya concept

https://s17.postimg.org/5shh6uzlb/Ferrari_SP_Arya_Design_Sketch.jpg

 

I see a lot of Aston Martin Vulcan in the above image.
Not sure if fits Ferrari... too agressive

 

It certainly would need very stiff springs... or at least very short ones :lol:

I bet the M will already feature hybrid power. Dealer talked about way over 800hp

I would love the F12M to be more expensive / exclusive and with dramatic performance improvement.

 

Ferrari was known for visual mix between aggressive and sensual voluptuous design. Lately (after splitting with Pininfarina) they are more oriented on aggressive side of design. Considering that fact, rendering you are commenting can be pretty accurate presentation of F12M.

 

A return of the 599 style flying buttresses?

 

That is Tdf. Expensive, exclusive with dramatic performance.

 

As long as the F12m remains an elegant car, I'm in.
Let Lamborghini go after the over the top styling.

 

The mere reason Lamborghini exists also creates opportunity for Ferrari.
Without darkness there is no light.

I have faith in ferrari's approach.

 

Its nice to be in the darkness sometimes

 

Just a very basic question. Can anyone imagine such a step forward in every aspect, comparable to the progress from 599 to F12?