'Official' F12M Rumours and Launch

No, because F12M will be based on F12 Berlinetta chassis. F12 Berlinetta was brand new project, so it was expected to be radically different than 599

 

Agreed. I think the move from 458->488 is an appropriate model as a foundation to our speculation.

 

I am probably reading too much into this but is it a coincidence that the latest edition of TOFM contains a big article on the Daytona,the 2016 world finals and the way the original Daytona ushered in Ferrari's design language for the next 10 years moving from rounded to angular.

 

See post 7 etc !

 

To which I have contributed.
Point of post was to say that article seems to me to make it more likely that "M" will be revealed at Daytona,is more likely to be called "Daytona" and is more likely to be angular and illustrate Ferrari design language for the next decade.

 

Thats what I was wondering.

 

I think the Ferrari Worldwide dealer meeting early Dec is also in Daytona Beach.

 

I think you are right.

 

Also F12 TDF was revealed at last World Finals.
Counter argument is that all this is too logical (SM influence ?) and following recent Ferrari naming trends new car will be called La Very Speciale 12 !!!

 

Agreed.
If I had money to wager it would be on "365 GTB DAYTONA"

 

I 've been today with university at FCA safety center in Orbassano, together with Alfa Stelvio semi covered cars I saw a Black painted raw chassis - body with Ferrari plate 152M, it is slightly different from f12 and People working on it confirmed they are now performing homologation test on it and actually it belongs to the new car.. seats were already inside installed in the BIW, as it generally happens for carbon seat in carbon tub vehicles, may e they find an interesting Solution..besides, upper the rear lamps in the body there are really two sort of vents/open channels probably for aero, similar to Milanno's rendering ones, the back shape is otherwise very similar to current model, but boat tailing at sides is more pronounced, it will be clearly a beautiful masterpiece, but the look will be completely clear only when the aero exterior panels will be mounted and final car shown. I'm very excited about it, the body seems very subtle , improved and lightweight focused.

 

Bet they show them the car as customer showings/previews are Q1.

 

December 1

 

Fascinating information. Thank you Marco and everyone!

 

Great information, thank you Marco! 3 more weeks and we should be all able to see the car.

 

Very interesting post. would like to get a bit more descriptive details in order to make new renders.

 

Not sure Daytona is a by-word for angular design. More like 'exquisite'. The detailing on the original car is just lovely.

I probably think that the new car will be an evolution from the F12 chassis, although the one thing that has me wondering is the fact that the 599 before it only had one iteration. And in fact, none of the previous double act cars have been markedly different at all; think 365/512BB, Testarossa/512TR/512M, 550/575. So perhaps this logic suggests that either this will be a completely new design (like 250 to 275 or 599 to F12) or it will be little changed?

 

New spy-photos:

Ferrari F12 M spied trying to hide its beautiful lines

Gr.
Xander

 

One can get a pretty good idea of some of the details from these pics. Thanks for posting.

 

I thought it was a big step like from 599 to f12, I was wrong and it is an evolution actually, maybe stronger than 550-575 though

 

To Milanno: Unfortunately I caught only rear end details, while the front end was partially disassembled and the structure was not so different from what I think is the f12 front structure, rear fenders were quite muscular and a bit tdf style, an aero device is surely implemented there, but without tdf shark vents
What is clear to me is that conjunction between sides and tailgate seems somewhat smoother and more rounded, indeed the rear cross section seems to be reducing, even if only a bit, similar to past race cars as Shelby Daytona, but less pronounced. From the holes on the mule cover near rear lamps, I think that is related to an air stream exploited by a rear aero device in the fenders.

 

To Tim: There were no clues about any rear flying buttresses, but it is always possible that:
They were not installed in the car already
They are not integral with monocoque chassis so they are visible only on final vehicle
They decided not using them, maybe saving their best shot for sportier versions.
Personally I would love to see them again, as they were gorgeous on 599 and we studied their interesting aero advantages in our aerodynamics lectures, but maybe we have to wait to discover the last NA V12 berlinetta to see if they return. Hope so.