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Has the 2016 WDC final showdown been designed ?

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  1. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    Definitely scripted. Just like the moon landings. And the world is flat. In fact it isn't. We are all in the matrix.
     
  2. ELP_JC

    ELP_JC Formula 3

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    With Rosberg's luck, I'd get a new engine and new transmission (with the appropriate penalties), play it safe at the start (even giving up a few places, if needed), finish at least 3rd (perfectly doable with his car), and prove to the world, MB, and LH that you won the title fair and square, with a great drive. If he doesn't, and he has a mechanical DNF, remember my post. He he. But yes, without a DNF, he pretty much has the title in the bag, barring disaster not of his own making. If he screws up, then he deserves not to win. We'll find out in a week:).
     
  3. Drive550PFB

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    *Facepalm*

    When I see posts like this, I surmise that the writer has never played organized sports. Not trying to be hurtful, but it just seems to me that competitors would never go in for the fix.

    Too many variables.

    A better explanation is that we have a handful of top level athletes, and top level engineers knocking heads with each other and the margin of victory (or the margin of error) is razor thin. I prefer to see this as highly gifted people all striving for the peak of Everest.
     
  4. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    The whole thing has been designed since they switched to this bloody hybrids.
     
  5. Terra

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    +1
     
  6. Terra

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    Since they've been teammates, Hamilton has won 31 times vs Nico's 22, and Lewis has put it on Pole 34 times vs Rosberg's 29.

    In sheer percentage terms, that's 41% more victories and 17% more poles.
     
  7. daytona355

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    Since he had the unquestioning support over Nico of the team and Wolff for two seasons, it really should be seen as a failure then, as with that sort of support, a really good driver (e.g., Schumacher) would have had those stats in the 90s

    To see the true caliber of the man, you only have to look at his reaction when he loses, to blame everyone but himself including accusing stewards of being racist, to know Elton is very low rent. Quick, but dumb, IMO
     
  8. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    This car is so ****ing quick, it often really is only seconds between 1st and 2nd (and less than 2 tenths more often than not in quali).

    For a driver that gets called a GOAT by a lot of his fans, he should've destroyed Rosberg. He quite simply hasn't. His performance is better but not by much.
     
  9. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    I don't think the OP means that it's been designed from the get go. It's not so much ''designed'' that a man sits there with a remote in his hands and blows up Hamiltons engine, it's the FIA try and intervene as little as possible (or as much) to ensure a tighter battle. Hamilton has been sitting on 2 reprimands for most of the season, yet has gotten away with things others have been reprimanded for. He's not received penalties for cutting across the track where others did get penalized for and so on. For the Mexico track cutting, I'm sure he'd have received a penalty had his engine not exploded in Malaysia.

    In Japan where we had an FIA Stewart lobbying for the Mercedes team to appeal the Verstappen decision, it was to get Hamilton closer to Rosberg.

    Side note, F1 engines don't do over 15K RPM. Limited to it, yes...but they rev 2-2.5K lower than that, even in quali...
     
  10. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    And when you add JB with LH at Mclaren we see why LH is not a GOAT or anything else. He needs a good car like JB did. LH has the car and the skill. So do alot of other drivers. He is but 1 of a few who are talented. Hardly the best. Skillful yes. World ending....not at all. He still does not get more out of a given car than FA.

    Period. In a less than perfect/competitive car he is impatient/sloppy and mistake prone and easily frustrated. His Mclaren days are toast full of it.

    JB was more than a match for LH LOL! Senna my asshhh!!
     
  11. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    I guess my sarcasm went over your head... for the record, I don't believe for one minute that the wdc is scripted. It makes no odds to Merc who wins. Similarly, it doesn't matter to Bernie either as the viewer figures for F1 are increasingly dependent on miracle Max and less and less on Ham or Ros.
     
  12. Bas

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    Better than average but a good certainly not. Remember that Rosberg only barely had Schumacher, who was old and far less motivated in a not very quick car.
     
  13. E60 M5

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    Your joking right?? LOL!!! You have NO idea what I have or haven't done in sports. When I read posts like this I surmise the writer is rather idiotic, not trying to be hurtful. LOL
     
  14. P.Singhof

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    If he has his first DNF in this year for an engine failure one can be almost certain that someone does not want him to become WDC....If this happens for a second time after 2014 in the last race then it is not too far fetched that it is not by chance.
    But if someone at Mercedes does not want him to become WDC then an engine and gearbox change will not make any difference. I hope they prove me wrong but I would not be surprised...And I still hope that letting pass Lewis in Monaco will not backfire on Nico.
     
  15. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I now that you are one if his worshippers, but exposing Hamilton's stats next to his team mate shows that he is not dominating, he just has slightly better results .
     
  16. tifosi12

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    ROFL

    That's like saying Uzaine Bolt is slightly faster than me on the 100m dash because I can do it under one minute.
     
  17. Drive550PFB

    Drive550PFB Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Well I was generalizing, which what tends to happen on the internet. However, if you would like to entertain us all with stories of you hitting the last second shot in the NCAA finals, or scoring the winning two point conversion in overtime of the NCAA championship game, or even making a bone crushing tackle in an NFL preseason game, I am all ears.

    And bonus points if you can hit an 85 MPH fastball, because I can't. My career was limited by the fact that I just couldn't hit the curveball.
     
  18. P.Singhof

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    I did not know that you have beaten Bolt in 22 races...
     
  19. Bas

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    +1 on all fronts.
     
  20. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1
     
  21. itschris

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    It'd be nice if Nico actually raced like a champion and tried to win. The last few races have been pretty ... I don't know... un-championship-like. I just don't think real champions should be content to let the other driver take off into the sunset while you cruise around the circuit. That's why he'll be a forgotten WDC. I'd like to seem him take pole and actually try to win the race. But he'll play it safe because getting the WDC is really all that matters nowadays... not how you get it.
     
  22. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Knowing the habits of the other protagonist, and team mate, I can understand why Nico would be very cautious to try anything.

    It's better for him to finish 2nd in the last race, and world champion, that try to win and end up with nothing. Rosberg doesn't have to play to the gallery of please anyone: he should concentrate on the job and accept to follow Hamilton.

    Hamilton will not play nice if Rosberg tries to overtake him, or if he is ahead of him; just refer to the Spanish GP for explanations!
     
  23. stever

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    Well, 'racecraft' nowadays IS tire and fuel management. I don't see how it makes sense to demean a (potential)championship because a guy protects a lead.

    'Win going as slowly as possible' and all that........
     
  24. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    +1


    As Prost used to say "Just do what is necessary to win, and no more..."
     
  25. Drive550PFB

    Drive550PFB Two Time F1 World Champ
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    One of the greatest statements of all time . . .

    On the night that Michael Jordan scored 69 points, someone put a microphone in front of Bill Wennington, who had 2 points that night.

    His quote was priceless: "For the rest of my life I will tell my grand kids about the night Michael Jordan and I combined for 71 points."
     

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