Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

Pagani stated that Huyara BC broke the record at COTA.

Most of the videos/times people are discussing here are just a small sample around the world and different tracks. The known ones are the ones which were used for entertainment purposes.

You'll see many of the hyper cars at different tracks around the globe. Owners track themselves or just allow a pro/instructor to lap their car around a track and compare it with their friends cars or their own if they have multiple of them. They just don't care to show these times. Mainly done for their own satisfaction and amusement.

 

I do remember reading they broke the COTA record, somewhere, but just can't remember where. Plus i thought it was like a rumor. But if its really legit, then its not hard to see it beating the others at imola.

 

And P1 has better hp/kg ratio, is lighter and has a that extreme Race Mode advantage...

 

went to chris harris holy trinity review and guess who i found there


yep, it was lieven/WBarnes/sroser

 

It was not a particular event. The Zonda R was too loud to drive at Imola becuase of the noise restrictions so was only able to use it for a couple of laps. The cars where all regular customer cars on the stock tires, BC had the PZero Corsa, not the Trofeo R. It was just for fun, was my personal curiosity to figure out which one was the fastest, not a special event...

 

You surely can't be serious? With the audience they have and the cost of the show, you think they should broadcast 6 minutes worth of in car lap footage to prove that their quoted times are correct? Get real. Accept it for what it is, those were the results. What is the motive for anything else?

 

Awesome. Thanks for the info. Its nice to finally see the ferrari can actually play fair with the others without having the old "how ferrari spins" rhetoric waved around. It also says a lot about the BC too.

 

Gregs' post above proves that they're all basically equal...except for the 918; that guy just butchers everyone, while the laf and P1 fight for second.

 

Just out of curiosity, how do you know that? What name was he using? I looked, but i didn't see his usual names.

 

same referenced sources and same writing pattern (claims standing start on TGT was edited in)

 

*puffs cigarette* so, same MO then?

 

The 918 is on Cups though, which are clearly faster than LF's Corsas and was still just 0.2s faster than the LF in GT's test. I believe that the only tyre that matches all three cars is the Cup 2, as the Tropheos, to my knowledge, don't come in the LF's and 918's dimensions and the Corsas don't match the 918's dimensions. Put them all on Cup 2s then and let's have this row all over again for the next two years or so...

 

Hopefully by then we'll have have the two "god cars" to talk about by then, if they're anywhere near they're hyped up to be.

But back on topic, if most customer cars are generally within .5secs of the 918 on cups, then i'd say its pretty fair when you consider the 918 weights about 300lbs more then the laf on corsas.

 

But being heavier, or less powerful, or whatever, is not an excuse as it was a design decision. Different tyres on the other hand can make a big difference and it has nothing to do really with the car itself.

 

So you're going to all these sites and kingjr also posts to various sites. Not sure what your point is. Many people own multiple brands and visit various forums. Same goes for ppl who are fans but don't own the cars


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Why am i being thrown into this?

 

He put you on blast for no reason. Too funny!

 

I understand why Ferrari doesn't like TrofeoR... but I'd pay to see LaFe on Pilot SC2.....

 

Motives:

1. Make the times relevant.

2. Cinematic use of track start lights.

They could certainly have made the full laps available on the online version.

 

Different day test. His time in 918 changed by 2s on different days even using the same tyres. Also watch the Evo video, he's specifically says the 918's Cup 2s are stickier than Corsas at 7:23.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiyyO7vrdiI&t=445s

 

Suddenly people want video evidence, LOL.

 

I'm afraid they didn't though and given past antics, who would trust them?

Did The Pagani Huayra Cheat To Set Its Record Lap Time On Top Gear? (UPDATED: Pagani Responds)

 

So, that's like saying the 918 has wider tyres. The point is that HL mode is a temporary 1 lap wonder and therefore gives a false impression, just as an N20 bottle would.

Everything in that video lap was edited in, e.g. the P1 drifting around a hairpin, the 3 guys talking, the scenes with entirely different sunlight levels. That much is unquestionable.

 

So you call winning by 0.2s on Cup 2s with HL mode as butchering a LaF on Corsas? That's kind of strange, especially when you believe it's a standing start. If you really believed that, that alone would account for the 0.2s.

 

*puffs cigarette* So they basically pulled a "P1 EVO test". All they did was claim to use corsas, when they actually used trofeos. I see nothing wrong with that, aside from giving the impression that corsas can do that; but since they came clean and admitted that it was trofeos (which they also offer for customers), then i see nothing wrong with the time. It seems even fezza has cleaned up their act as well.

Nope. I call it butchering because it--excuse my "Drake reference", "started from the bottom, now we're here". In the beginning, everyone doubted it because it was the fattest, the slowest, and had less power. But after all these test, even customer and factory tests, the 918 is generally first, while the Laf and P1 fight for second, the supposed supreme lords are fighting for second at best.

And much like the Pagani link that you just tossed out as bait or evidence, the only way the P1 will beat the 918 every time, is if its on trofeos, much like how the Pagani pulled off its time.
And if mclaren are to be believed in their statement that their spiders and coupes are equal, then the LT is equally in that position if its on P-Zeros and not trofeos. Do i need to bring up the LT spider Variano handle circuit time?