SE 30 thread

Rarely are Lambo special colors one-offs.

Love 056 too, pass on that Jota.

 

Hi Joe,
It has been a long time since we last spoke.
Beautiful SE.
I have one which is the same configuration, with books, blue harness belts, etc.
Has both original exhaust and special brutal aftermarket installed.
But mine has around 8K miles, and it is not for sale.
Someday I guess it will, and if that is the case I will let you know

 

Thanks. Awesome car!

 

Does anyone have the actual paint code for the wheel? Thanks.....
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Back in 2003 I had a ride in this car with the former owner, Gerrit Bloemendaal, who was the the Lamborghini importer for the Benelux region in the 90's. A good client, he visited the factory multiple times and several SE were sold through his dealership in Rijssen. 076 was his personal SE and the car has several bespoke features, that were ordered through the Carte Blanche program. When I asked him about the modifications, he told me that the power output was in the 'Jota range' (I have my doubts about that claim). I remember the ride we had vividly. Mr. Bloemendaal, a very friendly and genuine man, was a smoker and you could tell by the smell of the interior (if I recall correctly 076 also has a large ashtray). When we hit the highway we got into a rainstorm and the water would start to drip inside from the top of the window (gotta love '90s build quality). After that we had to pull over after a big puff of smoke came from the engine; I am not sure what caused it. It was an interesting experience to say the least. I believe the color is called Electric Yellow (or Green), maybe revio can confirm?

 

I noticed the ashtray too. Seems a unique or rare spec on the SE30. Bloemendaal also built the closed (with plexiglases to see the car) trailers in Lamborghini colors.
His last Diablo was a GT, with the big air intake on the roof.

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Interesting story. For now, I can't confirm the color name, but I'm waiting a pic of the PPG-Sticker.

Aux Chateaux du Sud Ouest made a presentation vid :

https://vimeo.com/192655176
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To illustrate, here is one of his trailers
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I feel like the color looks better and more intense in person than in pictures, especially in sunlight. As a result of the modifications, this car is also louder than other SE and will shoot flames!

 

Its actually a shame to see a special car like this was modified.

IMHO an SE30 is "Special" enough.

Perhaps these mods were the reason he had to pull over after a big puff of smoke came from the engine when you were given a ride?

 

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For me every time I see a purple Se30 my heart starts getting faster love it, great photo

 

Some pics of #132 taken at Top Motors last july
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I am quite certain that these modifications were done by the factory and that the car was delivered new like this, just like his modified GT

 

Incorrect.

RLA12076 was delivered as every other SE30 was originally delivered by the works.

The modifications are a post-production non-factory application.
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What makes you think that car is 076?

 

This:

1994 Lamborghini Diablo SE30 #RLA12076

076 is the only one with the interior in green & grey Alcantara, and that is shown clearly.

On the contrary, since we are all here to learn, can you please supply proof that the factory supplied the car at new with the modifications shown in the image at the top of the page, as you claim?

Always happy to be corrected if there is proof.

 

I did not claim it to be a fact; I said that I was quite certain and this is based on the conversation that I had with Mr. Bloemendaal about the modifications and his personal connection with the factory at the time of the car's production. The two pictures on the ILR might show the same car; I don't know and I don't rely on that website as a source as it contains too many errors, at least in the SE registry. The picture that you posted might show a pre-modified 076, or a different car. It could have been finished as a standard SE (although personalised), after which it was modified (be it by the factory, or not). The only thing that we know is that these modifications were done at an early stage. Can you share any interior pictures of 052, so that we can confirm the different interior?

 

Fair comments.

So, in summary, there is no proof that 076 's exhaust features were done by the factory at all, and the burden of proof is upon anyone who is suggesting or making representations that the standard factory manufactured specification was deviated from.

In fact the burden of proof is not upon you, its upon Gerrit Bloemendal who I understand is the one who lead you to belive that these mods were factory application, during a conversation with you.

As you yourself said about his claim that the power output was in the 'Jota range', you had your doubts about that claim, so similarly, it would be reasonable to have some doubt about the representation that 076 was factory modified.

As regards the ILR source, you are right, here are a number of known errors, but at the same time, much of the material is correct. That said, its unlikely that all the sources will be wrong, and LP112's representation corroborates that of ILR's and it also shows 076 outside the factory completed with standard exhausts: Detail on 1994 *Lamborghini *Diablo*SE30* ZA9DE22A0RLA12076

You ask about 052 (the other car in this color which resides in Japan) and here we see it too has standard exhausts: Detail on 1994 *Lamborghini *Diablo*SE30* ZA9DE22A0RLA12052

I never rely on 1 or even 2 sources alone to come to any conclusion, so I did a bit of further research. Gerrit Bloemendal and Sportscar Center were a haven for customization work & modifications in the mid-90s and beyond, including some Lamborghinis that went through Lamborghini Rijssen. So its reasonable to belive that 076 was modified by him. If you check into the history of Bloemendaal/Sportscar Center/Rijssen, you quickly come to the conclusion that Lamborghini modifications were not rare.

I have studied the modifications performed on 076 in recent images Lamborghini Diablo SE30 - 25 november 2009 - Autogespot, and I am convinced this is not the type of modification the factory as an entity would agree to get involved with for numerous liability and Road Transportation Authority reasons, perhaps in the 60s, but not in the mid-90s.

Bear in mind too (as I have posted here) that I was present at the factory when SE30s were being completed, and I tell you that they all had the exact same basic spec, with the exception of the Jota air-intakes on some cars. Of course I didn't see them all, but i did not see any evidence of 'custom' work being done for individual clients.

I think as enthusiasts its important to be open-minded, so if someone can show me proof 076 was factory modified, I'll accept that. Meanwhile, I think the mods are a post-production non-factory application by the car's first owner, my conclusion based on a combination of everything above.

To help with this discussion, I have reached out to someone who will know for sure, I'll report what he says.

 

I'm still looking of better pics of this car, especially the interior, but it also seems to be in green alcantara.
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Joe is right, the bumper and exhaust are very likely aftermarket modifications. My estimation on its originality were, as I previously stated, mainly based on my personal conversation with Mr. Bloemendaal. It seems like he did not provide me with an accurate representation on the provenance of the modifications at the time. I stand corrected, we learn something new about these cars everyday and that is what this forum is all about.

I come to this conclusion based on a Dutch article about the car (Auto Week, 01/1995), which shows the car in the Netherlands without the modifications, as in the picture Joe posted. I've had this article for years, but I never noticed. I also have other pictures of the car in the '90s, the earliest I can actually date is from the 37th ILOC Nordsee meeting in summer 1997. This shows the car with modifications, so they must have been done during the '95-'97 time period. In addition to this, there is a picture on Mr. Bloemendaal's company website that shows Diablo body parts (see link, notice as well the GT modification kit seen on the left, similar as on the GT that he used to own). It seems to suggest that his company indeed modified both cars.

That having said, the other specifications of the car do seem personalised by the factory. These include: custom ordered paint, interior colors and/or nameplate (known at Lamborghini as the 'Carte Blanche' program and confirmed by the Auto Week article, Mr. Bloemendaal also told me about this), ashtray, fire extinguisher system (not sure if actually installed). The car was also advertised by Lamborghini Rijssen as 'Individual Edition' (whatever that may mean) and the Auto Week article says that he took personal delivery of the car at the factory.

Similar personalised features can be found on other SE as well. Apart from the Carte Blanche program, Lamborghini offered several options for the SE, most of which I listed here. However, some cars have special features that seem to have been done by the factory, such as the steering wheel in 030.

 

Apparently mine was a special order.

The black paint was ordered as a Jaguar color to match the customers (Sultan of Brunei) XJ220.

 

Could you share with us the color name and code as seen on the PPG sticker?

 

Of course, I'm back home Monday so will try and do then

 

The mods are clearly post-production privateer application.

As promised, I have confirmed for from a reputable source, let's put this matter to rest - the modifications are NOT factory, and were performed after the car was delivered.

"------ Messaggio Originale ------
Su Venerdi, 25 Nov, 16 At 05:38
We never delivered a car with this "extractor"
After delivery modified, custom made.
Ciao
Valentino

This is just one example of some claims, representations and suggestions of factory applications I have read over the years, and its good to question these claims. For me, it simply didn't LOOK factory to me at all, and although my comments were initially guarded, I had little doubt that this was a personal customization. I have seen cars gain "factory" provenance over the years based on pure heresy, and its important we avoid this where possible.

Back to my original comment - IMHO, its a shame to see such a unique car modified in this way, and if I bought it I would immediately put it back to standard spec.