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Discussion in 'Australia' started by Aircon, Apr 26, 2011.

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  1. simon klein

    simon klein Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I was only interested in this 3000 due to it's history and significance.the report is a nightmare of zero maintenance.
     
  2. Ferraridoc

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  3. simon klein

    simon klein Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Speaking of meds,I forgot to mention that whilst waiting for my rectum to be invaded,the show on the hospital TV was...........


    Hogans Hero's.

    Had to be a good outcome...EH!
     
  4. Horse

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    OLIO!
     
  5. simon klein

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    STFU!,./?
     
  6. Horse

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    hOw rudE,;:()!?',,.?!'?
     
  7. Ferraridoc

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    Nobody's saying that there is NO anthropogenic effect on climate. Of course there is. But nobody understands climate either. The "experts" try to come close by modelling, but the models NEVER predict within a cooee of the course of climate variation, and instead of doing basic scientific method, they change the model! Science requires observation, hypothesis, and testing. But when the observations are suspect (remember the BOM "homogenising" the data?), and your hypothesis can't be tested, except by modelling, which continues to be contradicted by any new data, it gets difficult for a scientist to have faith in it.

    And faith is the right word. Climate change isn't science, it's religion.
     
  8. kerrari

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    Well actually a LOT of people are denying the anthropogenic effect which is all I'm sticking up for. If you've read any of my other posts you'd know I don't put any stock in the 'measurements' of either side because our paltry records of a couple of hundred years are just a blip in the history of the planet. But just because you can't accurately measure something doesn't mean it isn't happening. All of nature depends on balance and entropy - we've shifted the equation drastically one way - common sense tells me we need to change our behaviors to avoid a stuff up.

    The whole climate debate these days reminds me of the pollution and population 'looming disasters' of my youth - neither came to pass because of the debate and people changing their behaviour (with the help of a few sticks and carrots). I see the climate debate in the same way.
     
  9. Aircon

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    lol
     
  10. jmillard308

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    Except for the variable impact of the sun
     
  11. IanB

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    not another deplorable - I'll have to go to my safe place! :)
     
  12. Ferraridoc

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    Yes, I was going to mention that, but got too caught up on my soap box
     
  13. 365GTC/4

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    A single swallow does not make a spring but this is interesting. In around 500 AD the Zermatt glacier was almost non existent. Let's call that 0 KM. So the climate then around there was pretty warm. It then got progressively colder till around 1850 when the glacier was all the way down to the village of Zermatt. Maybe 10 km long. Now from 1850 till now the glacier has retreated to about 5 km ie about half what it was in 1850 BUT still bigger than it was in 500 AD. Now did the Roman Empire cause the glacier to melt and become almost non existent by 500 AD by lighting camp fires or was there another much bigger effect? I have seen data that shows the sun can vary it's output of radiation very significantly over short (weeks), medium (centuries) and long term (geologic time). There are nuclear reaction theories and models to explain these effects. Of course the release of carbon dioxide from fossil fuels would not have a zero impact on the earth's average temperature but other factors like the sun may have orders of magnitude more impact. So let's look at the facts not the beliefs/politics.
     
  14. Ferraridoc

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    And both orbital and axial tilt precession, both of which affect how much solar energy hits the planet and where.
     
  15. Aircon

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    How many lumens?
     
  16. Ferraridoc

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    Well, let's see: about 1600W per metre squared at 1 AU and 4300K. You can figure it out from there

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  17. au-yt

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    #3293 au-yt, Nov 25, 2016
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    Here is an interesting bit of trivial.
    each person put out the same amount of heat as a 100W light bulb multiply that by 6 Billion.

    and as for temperature over the last 4,500 years this might be of interest
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    I can't understand how they can tell us with absolute certainty, what the climate is going to be like in 100 years, but can't tell me what the weather is going to be like next Wednesday. #horse****.
    Worlds biggest 'bubble'
    Sorry Karen!
     
  19. Horse

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    It's Queensland, it will be a perfect day. :)
     
  20. Gizzi

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    Everyday is a perfect day in a Ferrari!
     
  21. simon klein

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    Yep!
     
  22. simon klein

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    Yep!
     
  23. AKA

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    Or a slightly different graph:

    http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/earth_temperature_timeline.png

    (Please note, I don't have an opinion one way or the other, I don't know the science and thus don't want to put my foot in either camp, but I am of the opinion that the reduction of pollution is a good thing for our health, and for the health of animals and plant life overall).
     
  24. au-yt

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    Funny that looks like the classic hockey stick J curve created by the IPCC...
     

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