This is a bit drastic ! | Page 2 | FerrariChat

This is a bit drastic !

Discussion in 'F1' started by william, Nov 23, 2016.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

    Nov 20, 2002
    17,673
    Tauranga, NZ
    Full Name:
    Pete
    Lol.

    Pete
     
  2. Luxb1

    Luxb1 Karting
    BANNED

    Mar 17, 2016
    248
    Monaco
    Full Name:
    J. Konrad
    "We won't win again?" What's with this "we" mentality that pervades the fandom? The team does't belong to you, you don't get a salary from them, they don't know that you exist, the drivers don't know you. Get over it. It's cringe-inducing.
     
  3. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Mar 25, 2009
    12,655
    London
    Full Name:
    Sid Korshak
    And this comment shows why you, and others, may not quite fit into a forum populated by true tifosi. We are dedicated to ferrari, the team, the cars, and if you don't think fans of any sports team don't see themselves as part of it, then you don't understand human nature at all
     
  4. Patrick Dixon

    Patrick Dixon Formula 3

    Mar 27, 2012
    1,138
    UK
    Well all I can say is, you are not doing very well.
     
  5. sammysaber

    sammysaber Formula Junior

    Dec 21, 2011
    553

    With all due respect to both of you, obviously Marchionne, who happens to be the BOSS failed.

    He's the one who should be skipping the lunch, not the staff under HIS direction.

    Straightforward.

    Best,
    Sammy
     
  6. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    49,819
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
    Absolutely.
     
  7. Terra

    Terra F1 Rookie
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 16, 2004
    3,938
    +1
     
  8. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

    Nov 4, 2003
    9,748
    Tell me again what was so bad about Luca?
     
  9. Etcetera

    Etcetera Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 7, 2003
    24,341
    Full Name:
    C6H14O5
    Broke up awesome team in favor of local talent. Rinsed out best driver in history of F1 in favor of someone else.

    Annual "Gonna Quit F1" tantrums in public.
     
  10. Luxb1

    Luxb1 Karting
    BANNED

    Mar 17, 2016
    248
    Monaco
    Full Name:
    J. Konrad
    Ferrari needs to start its own championship much like Don Panoz did. This hybrid engine nonsense is very girly. My lawnmower sounds better.
     
  11. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    49,819
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
    -1

    Ferrari is my team but F1 is my sport. If Ferrari is not smart enough to get their ducks in a row then so be it. Currently they have not done so.
     
  12. DeSoto

    DeSoto F1 Veteran

    Nov 26, 2003
    7,873
    As I've said, the decision is too drastic, so wrong.

    But as I've also said, if the team's morale depends on a lunch, or even on what the president thinks about them, then there's something wrong with the team.

    A team is a sum of a lot of people, not only a leader. I sometimes have been downplayed by my bosses and I didn't give a FXX-K: I knew when I was right and when they were wrong and kept working.
     
  13. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Mar 25, 2009
    12,655
    London
    Full Name:
    Sid Korshak
    Baaaa baaaaa baaaaa baaaa, oops, hybrid racing is rubbish .......... there ya go, sometimes, even you have one thing we can agree on :)
     
  14. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ
    BANNED

    Mar 25, 2009
    12,655
    London
    Full Name:
    Sid Korshak
    The teams moral doesn't depend on xmas lunch, but it does depend on the feeling pervaded by ferrari that it is a family company, that they care about their workers and their families (green spaces at work, family days, shutdowns, social events etc). Taking away a staple of the year that's been thee since the old man was around, win or lose, shows marchionne has contempt for the marque, and for the passion of the factory. He won't make people work harder for him being a tool over dinner, he'd be better having a traditional dressing down en masse like in the old days, and then putting his energy into demanding F1 allows more testing so the team can at least try to develop the cars and make a show of it next year. Blaming the team for being hamstrung by the limitations of the rules is sick
     
  15. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Oct 3, 2002
    49,819
    @ the wheel
    Full Name:
    Andreas
    Bad idea. Nobody watches Ferrari Challenge races. I rather see Ferrari loose against real competition than a fake series
     
  16. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 24, 2008
    43,096
    ESP
    Full Name:
    Bas
    +1 :D
    +1

    Nothing says sore loser more like ''I can't win so setting up my own series with only Ferrari's, so I'll always win even when I lose!''
     
  17. It's Ross

    It's Ross Formula 3

    Jul 30, 2007
    2,028
    Barrington, Ill. USA
    Full Name:
    Ross
    "The decision was made because “there is nothing to celebrate”, Turrini wrote on his Quotidiano blog."

    Wow!
    I though it was Christmas the were celebrating.
     
  18. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
    5,849
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Seems like a stupid move, but I don't know what the actual culture is like at Ferrari.

    Someone's wife died and it greatly impacted the team. If there are other problems I would address them, not assault the family aspect of F1. A lot of these guys have no work life balance already and now you are going to crap on them some more?
     
  19. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 3, 2006
    27,930

    So, the new line at Ferrari is that everything is "performance related", even Christmas celebrations.
     
  20. Igor Ound

    Igor Ound F1 Veteran

    Sep 30, 2012
    8,102
    The Horn
    Full Name:
    Igor Ound
    If that's what it takes I'm all for it. We'll see next year I guess but if that's another disappointment, how it's likely to be, after three years at the helm, Marchionne should have a really deep look at himself. If they prove competitive though, I'm not saying winning but at least being within a chance until the last race, I'll be the first to call Marchionne a genius.

    Btw my suspicion is that this move has all to do with money Marchionne doesn't want to spend on the party.
     
  21. Jack-the-lad

    Jack-the-lad Seven Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    LE PERCOSSE CONTINUERA' FINO A QUANDO MIGLIORA IL MORALE!*










    *"The beatings will continue until morale improves" or something approximating that.:D
     
  22. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 3, 2006
    27,930

    That reminds me of my Gran sending me straight to bed without supper when I had been a naughty little boy.

    Whatever ...
     
  23. Igor Ound

    Igor Ound F1 Veteran

    Sep 30, 2012
    8,102
    The Horn
    Full Name:
    Igor Ound
    Guess in you case didn't really work out in the long run, did it? ;)
     
  24. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

    Jun 3, 2006
    27,930
    It certainly didn't !
     

Share This Page