'Official' F12M Rumours and Launch

Traveller · Nov 29, 2016

kingjr9000 said: ↑

One guys' quote from LP: Ferrari has their dealer launch for the F12M in 2 weeks in the US and a private VIP showing in Italy in Feb with the offical launch at Geneva in March.
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Correct except the dealers launch is not in two weeks time, it's at Daytona in just a few days.

Caeruleus11 · Nov 29, 2016

Thanks Tim. We will just have to wait and see. I would love it if I somehow stumbled into the dealers area by accident of course while I am down there...

SiSc · Nov 29, 2016

Traveller said: ↑

Correct except the dealers launch is not in two weeks time, it's at Daytona in just a few days.
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I think you missed that his was a quote he read on another site. Not "his" assessmemt of 2 weeks from the time he posted that quote but rather when the OP on the other site posted maybe?

rockitman · Nov 29, 2016

Caeruleus11 said: ↑

Thanks Tim. We will just have to wait and see. I would love it if I somehow stumbled into the dealers area by accident of course while I am down there...
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use that stumbleupon app. Wish I was going.

Nelsonc275 · Nov 29, 2016

Im down here now and will try to find out more info if possible

ingegnere · Nov 29, 2016

With the info gleaned from the camo'd prototypes, I expect the car will look something like this. Generally pretty close to the original, but with all new panels all around expect maybe for the green-house.

If I'm right, the most notable change will be that the front is less obviously pointy with more accentuation of the far-forward front wheels and and a blunter, more pronounced hump over the front axle. The fender peak will drop down to the side of fender and door as it runs backwards - like on the Lusso (which, BTW, I really don't like - reminds me of new Nissan design language). There is a visible crease across the fender/door edge visible on the mules.

Headlights appear to be more horizontal than previously and seem to be trimmed by the fender line.

Aero-bridge seems to be replaced by aft facing vent behind the front wheel well, with the scalloped sides being a continuation of the front bumper leading edge shape.

I imagine that the quarter window may be re-done in a less angular fashion to mimic the quarter window on the Daytona, especially if this one will be called Daytona.

I can't imagine a single tdf-style cut over the rear wheels as was mentioned earlier other than it being like one slit, maybe angled in sympathy to the trailing edge of the quarter window.

I imagined a scoop right behind the door handle (mimicking the shape of the quarter window) to feed a rear fender flow-through arrangement like on the 488, with exits at the back, around the lights.
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95spiderman · Nov 29, 2016

Beautiful sketch!

dustman · Nov 29, 2016

Delicious!

Tupps11 · Nov 29, 2016

ingegnere said: ↑

With the info gleaned from the camo'd prototypes, I expect the car will look something like this. Generally pretty close to the original, but with all new panels all around expect maybe for the green-house.

If I'm right, the most notable change will be that the front is less obviously pointy with more accentuation of the far-forward front wheels and and a blunter, more pronounced hump over the front axle. The fender peak will drop down to the side of fender and door as it runs backwards - like on the Lusso (which, BTW, I really don't like - reminds me of new Nissan design language). There is a visible crease across the fender/door edge visible on the mules.

Headlights appear to be more horizontal than previously and seem to be trimmed by the fender line.

Aero-bridge seems to be replaced by aft facing vent behind the front wheel well, with the scalloped sides being a continuation of the front bumper leading edge shape.

I imagine that the quarter window may be re-done in a less angular fashion to mimic the quarter window on the Daytona, especially if this one will be called Daytona.

I can't imagine a single tdf-style cut over the rear wheels as was mentioned earlier other than it being like one slit, maybe angled in sympathy to the trailing edge of the quarter window.

I imagined a scoop right behind the door handle (mimicking the shape of the quarter window) to feed a rear fender flow-through arrangement like on the 488, with exits at the back, around the lights.
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Very impressive. Great job

deltona · Nov 29, 2016

Wow! That is impressive. You are very talented. Thank you.

If it looked close to that I think it would look great.

SiSc · Nov 30, 2016

ingegnere said: ↑

With the info gleaned from the camo'd prototypes, I expect the car will look something like this. Generally pretty close to the original, but with all new panels all around expect maybe for the green-house.

If I'm right, the most notable change will be that the front is less obviously pointy with more accentuation of the far-forward front wheels and and a blunter, more pronounced hump over the front axle. The fender peak will drop down to the side of fender and door as it runs backwards - like on the Lusso (which, BTW, I really don't like - reminds me of new Nissan design language). There is a visible crease across the fender/door edge visible on the mules.

Headlights appear to be more horizontal than previously and seem to be trimmed by the fender line.

Aero-bridge seems to be replaced by aft facing vent behind the front wheel well, with the scalloped sides being a continuation of the front bumper leading edge shape.

I imagine that the quarter window may be re-done in a less angular fashion to mimic the quarter window on the Daytona, especially if this one will be called Daytona.

I can't imagine a single tdf-style cut over the rear wheels as was mentioned earlier other than it being like one slit, maybe angled in sympathy to the trailing edge of the quarter window.

I imagined a scoop right behind the door handle (mimicking the shape of the quarter window) to feed a rear fender flow-through arrangement like on the 488, with exits at the back, around the lights.
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Bravo!!

Brian L · Nov 30, 2016

ingegnere said: ↑

With the info gleaned from the camo'd prototypes, I expect the car will look something like this. Generally pretty close to the original, but with all new panels all around expect maybe for the green-house.

If I'm right, the most notable change will be that the front is less obviously pointy with more accentuation of the far-forward front wheels and and a blunter, more pronounced hump over the front axle. The fender peak will drop down to the side of fender and door as it runs backwards - like on the Lusso (which, BTW, I really don't like - reminds me of new Nissan design language). There is a visible crease across the fender/door edge visible on the mules.

Headlights appear to be more horizontal than previously and seem to be trimmed by the fender line.

Aero-bridge seems to be replaced by aft facing vent behind the front wheel well, with the scalloped sides being a continuation of the front bumper leading edge shape.

I imagine that the quarter window may be re-done in a less angular fashion to mimic the quarter window on the Daytona, especially if this one will be called Daytona.

I can't imagine a single tdf-style cut over the rear wheels as was mentioned earlier other than it being like one slit, maybe angled in sympathy to the trailing edge of the quarter window.

I imagined a scoop right behind the door handle (mimicking the shape of the quarter window) to feed a rear fender flow-through arrangement like on the 488, with exits at the back, around the lights.
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Great vision, and rendering.

I hope you're right, yet my gut says it's more like the Lusso, meaning not the triangle door handles for starters and more busy body lines and flat/squareness instead of the roundness. We shall see

Solid State · Nov 30, 2016

kingjr9000 said: ↑

One guys' quote from LP: Ferrari has their dealer launch for the F12M in 2 weeks in the US and a private VIP showing in Italy in Feb with the offical launch at Geneva in March. I'm good friends with a very senior guy at Ferrari and he is telling me to expect 800hp, he has seen the car allready. There reason I'm mentioning this is lambo will obviously capitalise on the hype also, hence I would say that we will know more in Jan. I do know someone who has actually driven the car allready, in fact it was a test car with cetenario entertainment system, he couldn't tell me much though.

With the launch of both of these cars it should be an exciting 2017.
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I do not follow Lamborghini too much but was interested in your post regarding cetenario entertainment. It apparently is touch screen driven but what got me to respond was the Centenario model itself. The worst case of flaps and gills yet! Perhaps they sent the F+G designer to Lamborghini and the F12M will be sweet?
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Traveller · Nov 30, 2016

ingegnere said: ↑

With the info gleaned from the camo'd prototypes, I expect the car will look something like this. Generally pretty close to the original, but with all new panels all around expect maybe for the green-house.

If I'm right, the most notable change will be that the front is less obviously pointy with more accentuation of the far-forward front wheels and and a blunter, more pronounced hump over the front axle. The fender peak will drop down to the side of fender and door as it runs backwards - like on the Lusso (which, BTW, I really don't like - reminds me of new Nissan design language). There is a visible crease across the fender/door edge visible on the mules.

Headlights appear to be more horizontal than previously and seem to be trimmed by the fender line.

Aero-bridge seems to be replaced by aft facing vent behind the front wheel well, with the scalloped sides being a continuation of the front bumper leading edge shape.

I imagine that the quarter window may be re-done in a less angular fashion to mimic the quarter window on the Daytona, especially if this one will be called Daytona.

I can't imagine a single tdf-style cut over the rear wheels as was mentioned earlier other than it being like one slit, maybe angled in sympathy to the trailing edge of the quarter window.

I imagined a scoop right behind the door handle (mimicking the shape of the quarter window) to feed a rear fender flow-through arrangement like on the 488, with exits at the back, around the lights.
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Humbled. Thank you for posting.

DavidJames1 · Nov 30, 2016

Great sketch - I wish I had your skills. If it looks anything like that- it will be a cool looking car - how do you see the rear with the twin lights and the front? There's a German video in the California replacement thread which gives a version and looks like it might follow some of your thoughts.

Shack · Nov 30, 2016

Traveller said: ↑

Correct except the dealers launch is not in two weeks time, it's at Daytona in just a few days.
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Spot on - my dealer flies out today

Shack · Nov 30, 2016

ingegnere said: ↑

With the info gleaned from the camo'd prototypes, I expect the car will look something like this. Generally pretty close to the original, but with all new panels all around expect maybe for the green-house.

If I'm right, the most notable change will be that the front is less obviously pointy with more accentuation of the far-forward front wheels and and a blunter, more pronounced hump over the front axle. The fender peak will drop down to the side of fender and door as it runs backwards - like on the Lusso (which, BTW, I really don't like - reminds me of new Nissan design language). There is a visible crease across the fender/door edge visible on the mules.

Headlights appear to be more horizontal than previously and seem to be trimmed by the fender line.

Aero-bridge seems to be replaced by aft facing vent behind the front wheel well, with the scalloped sides being a continuation of the front bumper leading edge shape.

I imagine that the quarter window may be re-done in a less angular fashion to mimic the quarter window on the Daytona, especially if this one will be called Daytona.

I can't imagine a single tdf-style cut over the rear wheels as was mentioned earlier other than it being like one slit, maybe angled in sympathy to the trailing edge of the quarter window.

I imagined a scoop right behind the door handle (mimicking the shape of the quarter window) to feed a rear fender flow-through arrangement like on the 488, with exits at the back, around the lights.
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you are SO talented - amazing

ajr550 · Nov 30, 2016

ingegnere said: ↑

With the info gleaned from the camo'd prototypes, I expect the car will look something like this. Generally pretty close to the original, but with all new panels all around expect maybe for the green-house.

If I'm right, the most notable change will be that the front is less obviously pointy with more accentuation of the far-forward front wheels and and a blunter, more pronounced hump over the front axle. The fender peak will drop down to the side of fender and door as it runs backwards - like on the Lusso (which, BTW, I really don't like - reminds me of new Nissan design language). There is a visible crease across the fender/door edge visible on the mules.

Headlights appear to be more horizontal than previously and seem to be trimmed by the fender line.

Aero-bridge seems to be replaced by aft facing vent behind the front wheel well, with the scalloped sides being a continuation of the front bumper leading edge shape.

I imagine that the quarter window may be re-done in a less angular fashion to mimic the quarter window on the Daytona, especially if this one will be called Daytona.

I can't imagine a single tdf-style cut over the rear wheels as was mentioned earlier other than it being like one slit, maybe angled in sympathy to the trailing edge of the quarter window.

I imagined a scoop right behind the door handle (mimicking the shape of the quarter window) to feed a rear fender flow-through arrangement like on the 488, with exits at the back, around the lights.
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Great work.If it looks anything like that I for one will be very happy.

ingegnere · Nov 30, 2016

Brian L said: ↑

Great vision, and rendering.

I hope you're right, yet my gut says it's more like the Lusso, meaning not the triangle door handles for starters and more busy body lines and flat/squareness instead of the roundness. We shall see
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Thanks and thanks everyone.

I do this because, like you, I can't wait a few days-or more-to see what the new car will look like.

As to your comment, I agree, I really don't know what to expect and am certain I will be surprised. Positively, I hope.

Cheers

ingegnere · Nov 30, 2016

DavidJames1 said: ↑

Great sketch - I wish I had your skills. If it looks anything like that- it will be a cool looking car - how do you see the rear with the twin lights and the front? There's a German video in the California replacement thread which gives a version and looks like it might follow some of your thoughts.
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Yeah, the blue car seems to point to some things that can be seen the proto, it's just that the render is so badly executed that it doesn't resemble a 2 seater GT (I think they used a 612 for the basis of the PhotoShop).

f12tm · Nov 30, 2016

I was included to see the TDF launch at Pebble and while my dealer will not confirm, he is wanting to make sure that I am available on a short notice at Daytona... am heading down today.. can't wait to see all the cars and track action...will certainly report if a new F12 is spotted...

dcmetro · Nov 30, 2016

ferr9000 said: ↑

Saw the car couple of weeks ago.
In general: new front and more marked and "strong" lines , as an example in the door panel there is like an air intake which starts down just after the front tires and then goes up opening it in two different lines across the door panel.
Over the rear tire It has an air vent similar to the triple ones in the TDF but the F12M has just one and in a slightly different angle/position.
Four tail lights and the tail ("ferrari" emblem part) is very pronunced..even a bit more than the TDF.

Best.
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ingegnere said: ↑

With the info gleaned from the camo'd prototypes, I expect the car will look something like this. Generally pretty close to the original, but with all new panels all around expect maybe for the green-house.

If I'm right, the most notable change will be that the front is less obviously pointy with more accentuation of the far-forward front wheels and and a blunter, more pronounced hump over the front axle. The fender peak will drop down to the side of fender and door as it runs backwards - like on the Lusso (which, BTW, I really don't like - reminds me of new Nissan design language). There is a visible crease across the fender/door edge visible on the mules.

Headlights appear to be more horizontal than previously and seem to be trimmed by the fender line.

Aero-bridge seems to be replaced by aft facing vent behind the front wheel well, with the scalloped sides being a continuation of the front bumper leading edge shape.

I imagine that the quarter window may be re-done in a less angular fashion to mimic the quarter window on the Daytona, especially if this one will be called Daytona.

I can't imagine a single tdf-style cut over the rear wheels as was mentioned earlier other than it being like one slit, maybe angled in sympathy to the trailing edge of the quarter window.

I imagined a scoop right behind the door handle (mimicking the shape of the quarter window) to feed a rear fender flow-through arrangement like on the 488, with exits at the back, around the lights.
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Ingegnere, your rendering is mind blowing. Did you include the details from ferr9000's description ?

Traveller · Nov 30, 2016

I think Ingeneres effort is brilliant and possibly pretty close after all it will still be an F12. With the tdf and something like this for the M, it just demonstrates what a wonderful initial design Pinin created, truly a masterpiece.

F12B88 · Nov 30, 2016

You don't think with 4 tail lights like the Lusso...it'll look too close to the C7 Z06 do you?

cesman · Nov 30, 2016

Traveller said: ↑

I think Ingeneres effort is brilliant and possibly pretty close after all it will still be an F12. With the tdf and something like this for the M, it just demonstrates what a wonderful initial design Pinin created, truly a masterpiece.
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I don't think Pinin had anything to do with the F12. My understanding is the 458 was their last car

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