Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

Yeah it holds a record only 2s (or <0.3s/minute) better than an Aventador SV, which is slower than the number two Mclaren road car (not including the LM in that count). Not that impressive. Also 9s slower than a Radical SR8 LM. Now the P1 on Trofeo Rs was only a few tenths slower than the Radical RXC Turbo 500 on Anglesey Coastal which is faster than an SR8 LM, and its high speed acceleration on the 'ring would be a sure advantage over the Radical. So all in all, the leaked times of 6:47 and 6:33 on semi-slicks were probably right given the time Goodwin put in.

Meanwhile, here's more evidence of the sustainability of the P1's performance in the shape of a P1 GTR, which uses 11% more battery power than a P1, running two 1:50 laps of Barcelona Catalunya GP back-to-back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRd3PPnV5ro

 

lol. you are making my point. The P1 runs away and hides from Nring result. So now you are talking about a lambo vs 675 LT. Diversion! McLaren most definitely needs to own up. But they won't.

The 918 already beat the semi-racecar radical at the Bugatti circuit.

 

The time was leaked, 6:47 and 6:33 on semi-slicks.

Ha, useless driver then. Funny how it's 2.3s up on a 488 on a 1.2 minute lap below and only 0.9s up on a 1.7 minute lap at Bugatti Le Mans. And I know they only got 2 laps with the 675LT before it rained at Le mans Bugatti too.

Anglesey Coastal lap times - FastestLaps.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnefvOnI4M

I mean please, customer sets 2:30.23 (lap record) on Spa in slower V8 version. Factory driver faster than GP bikes around Silverstone GP. Learn to drive Christophe, learn to drive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Okz4Zvt-b8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmJwKfgtyXs

 

At that point the one:1 should be able to match the 956s time of 6:11, something which i know it will not do because a one:1 is nowhere near group C laptimes, it is closer to GT3 which is around 6:30

 

Cobblers. The factory driver set 2:32 around Spa, and a customer just beat him in a Radical RXC V8 and McLaren customers run low 2:30s on tracks days on Corsas. Heck the best LT customer lap is 2:36. The Koeniggsegg doesn't go that well on corners.

 

LOL Oh master of the internet I'm sure you can provide us the most obscure data set ever in order to "prove" this point. I've never conversed with anyone who has a KSegg, they are unicorns. You have no idea what you're talking about with any of this stuff. Why don't you do yourself a favor though and go over to the Mclaren forum where you and some other fanboys can rejoice in each others ignorance...? Not one person here has agreed with any of your points other than the Mclaren P1 owners and even they are cautious about it. It's you (who has no experience with fast cars) against every other member (many who have massive experience with fast cars). Doesn't that tell you something?

 

i'm not even a fan off koenigsegg myself because of their tendencies to claim a lot of big numbers but never allowing 3rd party test of their cars, but the one:1 is nothing to scoff at

 

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As you can see above, the P1's Nordschleife video has been leaked too. I completely agree that the P1 is a fantastic car, very exciting, and very fast. Almost no road car can match it around Laguna, Thermal, Nordschleife, etc.

BTW, it would be nice if FerrariChat did a better job of policing duplicate accounts.

 

IIRC, that record time was set in a "prototype" (pre-production) 918, which was "slightly" different () than the later regular production cars. To validate the record, porsche should have gone to the '-ring' again, in a production car (in its 7th or 8th incarnation ;p).

 

I learned from the GM of the local Lamborghini dealer that the upcoming Huracan LP640-4 Performante coupe (formerly known as Superleggera) beat the 918's Nurburgring lap record by "several seconds." The car will be shown at Geneva 2017 and the lap time will be revealed then.

In the meantime, Porsche should go back to the Ring with a production 918 WP car with Trofeo R tires, which are now available for the car, for another record run to see if they can keep the Ring record...

 

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You are just too funny. Every time a lap time is set that doesn't fit with your narrative, the driver is dismissed as being incompetent, even if they are pro drivers who have competed in high level racing, eg. Le Mans or F1. Newsflash: you don't get to those levels of racing without serious skill, more skill than 99.5% of the people on this forum.

 

Considering that P1 customers are running around 2:30 on Spa with Corsa, 2:32 with a factory driver and Cup 2s is not a good time, especially when Spa is one of the tracks that should lend its hand to the Koenigsegg. Tried set a 'ring record, crashed.

 

Roughly the same quality of evidence as the Grand Tour laps then.

 

They won't though because the e-power delivery was already optimised for the 'ring. What they did later was increase the delivery rate for shorter magazine laps. Sort of like use race and qualifying engine settings. Very disingenuous. Right now, they'd rather just maintain the illusion that the production version is genuinely faster, when really it's just a faster battery depletion rate being exploited.

 

Dude, the Radical RXC Turbo 500s, 500Rs and V8s are in a different league to these hypercars. A well driven one is 20s off F1 pace, the 918 wouldn't even get a look in. To think it would is a complete lack of understanding of the subject matter. I've already shown you a customer casually whooping the Koenigsegg's Spa lap and a factory driver hammering GP bikes on Silverstone GP and getting within 20s of current F1 cars on Barcelona Catalunya.

You see all those GP bike times.

Le Mans (Bugatti) lap times - FastestLaps.com

A well driven RXC 500R or V8 is faster than those.

Silverstone GP (post 2011) lap times - FastestLaps.com

23s slower than Lewis Hamilton in a 2016 Merc F1 car.

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/barcelona-catalunya-f1-post-2007

Try again.

 

I bet it will be a ringer just like the press cars they had trapping 135mph at launch lol

 

It's called the Green Hell for a reason. Things don't always go perfectly in real life. It's not one of your video games.

 

I would never criticise your driving, however YouTube users are not so kind. Sorry man, couldn't resist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAUThJ8Q7Sk&t=1s

 

It hasn't really proven itself fast on track anywhere though. Even the factory driver's 2:32 on Spa is very mediocre and you'd think that's the prefect track.

 

Erroneous, baseless, conjecture that provides no value, dumbs the argument, wastes our time.

 

Erroneous hey. Please compare the peak speeds on the straights for the 918 pre-production:

1:01:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg1fY1fVYNk

and post production:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fnTZKvX5jg&t=588s

Tip to save argument - Don't use main straight, because yes, car was limited there.

Summary - Tuned e-assist for optimal 'ring lap, still fully drained battery. Increased e-assistance power for shorter magazine lap and hence increased charge usage rate.

Thanks for playing.

 

You must be a real treat for your teachers in school....

 

Again, you keep trying to change the channel when your arguments fall apart. The discussion starts off 918 vs P1, you move it to 675 vs Lambo, then you bizarrely bring in the Radical into discussion - anything to denigrate the much hated 918. So I point out that the 918 comfortably beat the Radical at Bugatti (by the same driver no less), then you start talking superbikes (which I don't give a s*** about). Try to stay on topic!

 

The teachers were never like that at my school, thankfully.