Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

The point being that the Radical RXC V8s, 500s and 500Rs are like Group C with numberplates. There is is no way a 918 could beat one unless the driver is nervous, which is understandable. Comparing these Radicals to a 918, is like comparing a Merc F1 W07 to a P1 GTR.

The point about the bikes was that the Radical RXC Spyder whooped all those GP bikes (not superbikes) on Silverstone GP by 20s, therefore you would have to ask why the driver at Le Mans Bugatti couldn't beat them. And there is but one answer.

 

Listen, I know you're an owner but Lieven can clearly disprove what Porsche NA told you with a youtube video or some link to a post on another forum....

 

BS, according to Lieven they are admissable in a court of law.

 

You fool!! Lieven can disprove your legitimate "industry contacts" with some forum posts and youtube videos.

 

Lieven can show you plenty of selective internet links to show you how misinformed (despite your 918 ownership experience) you really are. God, Lieven and I both long for the days where owners knew anything about their cars....

 

I know you own a P1, 918 and Laf but clearly.... you know nothing. Please allow Lieven, our resident expert, to explain everything to you. You wasted nearly $4 million when you could have learned more about those cars by playing video games and watching YouTube videos. You Fool!!

 

That is true for the early tests that still had the initial e-discharge rate, later they increased the battery usage rate for faster hot laps. See two Motor Trend test videos and peak speeds on straights for details.

 

They're not my rules, they're the rules of the NHRA and they're the statements of the magazine running the test.

Ferrari LaFerrari Reviews - Ferrari LaFerrari Price, Photos, and Specs - Car and Driver

From memory NHRA rules state no more than 12ft variation in elevation from start to finish.

MotorTrend Reviews 2015 Ferrari LaFerrari: Video | car News @ Top Speed

 

There's no need to disprove hearsay, first it has to be proven.

Don't you find it strange how the P1 isn't losing to the Aventador SV anywhere else? Yet on a horsepower track with an average speed of 110mph it is.

No one disputes the result, however 3 things should be noted.

1. Production 918 test at Laguna was 4mph faster on every straight than pre-production version that did the 'ring lap - the one whose battery was dead after 6 minutes.

2. Lot's of narrow 30-40mph corners favour AWD.

3. Adding up the fastest sector times for each car put the P1 0.2s ahead.

 

Wow this is humorous. Maybe Sebastian Vettal should tell the F1 rulemakers that his qualifying laps should be set up by sector times. Perhaps in the first qualifying lap, he was fastest in the first sector, and the next flyer he was quickest in the second sector, etc. Therefore he should get pole position.

This nonsense reminds of the quote from the famous British economist, Ronald Coase:
“If you torture the data long enough, it will confess.”

 

Didn't suggest anything of the sort, just pointing out that sometimes a car is capable of more than the driver extracts from it and Vettel and other F1 drivers would know this anyway and would look at this kind of thing in between qualifying laps to find out where they can improve.

I know, and the data has confessed.

 

Nearly 1000 pages later and it never fails. A new troll pops up every few months to elevate the level of ridiculousocity to a whole nutha threshold.

 

I read that Voyager 1 is currently at 35,700 mph from Nasa But Google said 35,970 mph - I think maybe a mistake was made and Voyager 2 is quicker. Some guy told me though that actually Voyager 2 is the faster interstellar spacecraft due to heliosphere interference, and that the measurement sensors are actually not calibrated correctly anymore.

My assertions still stands..Voyager 2 is the faster spacecraft of the two. I challenge anybody here to prove me wrong.

 

Helios 2 and Juno are both faster.

...just saying.

 

If one of the Voyager spacecraft was made by Mclaren you can bet you a** that Lieven would be quick to chime in.

 

You got me there brother!!!

 

I think the only thing that will get us to objective results is when ultra cars have fully automous modes, then you can completely remove driver skill out. Let them use any tire that is street legal, and go at it same day and same track.

I understand that Liven is saying the P1 is the fastest car, I don't know if that is true, but if it is..it's cool. I would still take the LaF everytime if I was blessed to have the opportunity.

Be well all.

 

Depends on the track and depends how many laps you're doing, is what I'm saying.

 

funny you should say that. headline of article is:
Can an Autonomous Audi Beat a Pro-Driver on a Race Track? (they tested it at sonoma raceway)


Can an Autonomous Audi Beat a Pro-Driver on a Race Track?

 

Agreed, given x scenario y car will be fastest.

&

1+1 = 2

Although one can always be "that guy" that's says nope,

1+1 = 11
Or
1+1 = 2.0
Or
1+1 = two
Or
.......

 

That is a great article, thanks for sharing. I saw some other articles and videos saying we are reaching the theoretical limit as well for a acceleration with normal street tires.

 

good videos too.

auto industry has moved on from 918 vs p1 vs laferrari. maybe all of us should too. -

 

I would call your post just conjecture. From a truly controlled analysis, all you can say about the two scenarios is that there are two different videos under two different conditions that have different results. In order to come to the conclusion which you have expressed, you would have to have both cars at the same track on the same day with the same driver under the same conditions. Your assertions are erroneous and at best amusing. Those that believe that to be a valid and comprehensive conclusion are either biased or really just don't understand a controlled study.

There are repeated assertions of programing of the electric power utilization. Do you know of someone within the 918 Development program that has confirmed that there is increased electric power utilization? If your hypothesis is derived from the above videos, logically I will tell you your conclusion is flawed.

 

...something tells me with 1,000 pages (sorry Liven, I mean 990 to be exact ) it won't - but at least it's fun!

Here is that article I was talking about.
Determining the Quickest 0-60 Time Theoretically Possible on Street Tires

Be well Exoticcardreamer...love your latests photos/videos!

 

Lieven knows absolutely jack squat. Just another troll going to great pains, using the intuhnet, to 'prove' that 918 is a crappy car, a 'one lap wonder', etc...