Dino - really a true Ferrari or not?

In post 43, the OP states he is of the opinion that it isn't.

So, the nature of this thread it to either seek reinforcement of that opinion or stir-up aggravation among longtime members of FChat that know better. He initially posed the question as though he naively doesn't know one way or the other. That, in my book, is trolling. Let me spell it out for you, son:

Up to the time Dinos were put in production, Ferrari road cars had 12-cylinders. It is understandable that Mr Ferrari wanted to distinguish the 12-cylinder line of cars from the new 6-cylinder cars and honor his late son at the same time. Simple as that. Aside from the badging, they are Ferraris. Capiche?

 

Ok, this post just pushed me off the ledge. I can now, wholeheartedly support the notion that you're behaving like a class A troll, as one of the "uptight old men" you are universally condemning with your last post.

I get it, we're too old to understand you. We can't see what you're trying to tell us. So maybe you can try again, explain why disrespecting people here is a good thing, why, in this sub forum where we work hard to show some decorum, you should run roughshod through it, insulting folks as you go.

Since you haven't read it, you should pick up a copy of the Carnegie book. It's still 100% applicable in today's world and can be life changing.

To quote DC:

Words to live by.

D

 

I just wished they stayed unloved 'almost Ferrari.' I would have been able to afford one then. I think once word got out how cool and awesome they are, prices went north beyond my wallet!

 

Ok sonny, let me make it clear for you.

You call us toothless angry old men and want us to respect you? Yeah, that'll happen. Roll on in to a tight group of owners, toss **** their way, and hope you'll get a nice polite response. Yep, that's realistic.

You act like a troll, classless and clueless as to how to behave around adults. That should be your problem, not ours, but you're pushing it our way, hence the hostile reaction to you.

But, rather than continue to tussle with you, I'm hitting the ignore button. That makes two people here I have on ignore, so consider yourself in very select company.

D

 

A hole troll aside, on the original question since I was not at Daytona does anyone know with certainty if Dinos were counted by Ferrari and the Guiness book people as a Ferrari? A Dino owner I know who was there told me he heard not but he wasn't certain. To me that should answer the question definitively.

 

Hey mods, I really wish one of you would step up and nuke this twit.

 

Mods are aware of the situation. Apparently they're staying out of it.

So, given that, we'll just have to muddle through.

The ignore button is your friend,

D

 

Wow..................Oh and there is nothing wrong with a Lotus Evora dang it!

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f87/scottyo64/IMG_4514.jpg


This thread made for some good reading

 

[followed by multiple rounds of escalations]

It's become apparent that your response to any negative comment is to deliver more than you get. That may work for you, but it doesn't work for this site. Whether you should have taken Alden's comment so personally or not (I think not, as long paragraphs are acknowledged as unpleasant to read by most writing experts), choosing to insult his age and car was a non sequitur and escalated the exchange. Escalations result in flame wars and an unpleasant experience for all users.

If you find a comment offensive, then you can use the ! button (exclamation point in red triangle in the upper right corner of each post) to get a mod to take a look and see if they agree. If you choose to retaliate on your own, and worse escalate the level of offensiveness, then you will simply earn a ban or multiple bans.

7-day ban.

 

The point has been made about the readability of the user's paragraph style, there's no need to belabor it.

Further, it's not courteous to pile on a user who can't respond.

The subject is Dino's, not another user.

 

Another post about a banned user deleted.

It's Ross given a 2-day ban for repeating a deleted post about a banned user.

 

This is a very interesting question, which may have been missed among the trolling. Does anyone have an answer? Maybe Carbon would know, i think he was there?

 

Money talks and BS walks. These things wouldn't be selling for over a quarter million dollars if they weren't considered "real Ferraris."

 

Is a BMW a Rolls Royce?

If you think it is then you believe a Dino is a Ferrari.

 

Bob,
I think the distinction is that BMW acquired Rolls-Royce, at that time, a company that was already in existence for over 90 years. Ferrari developed Dinos "in-house."

 

It's Trump! I knew something sounded familiar! I love me some Donald Trump!! Welcome.....

 

I have been on F-Chat for over 10 years and have lots of posts. One of the first true arguments I was in was about this exact question. I was at the Ferrari Factory and Museum and saw a 246 which had a plaque standing in front of it. It read, "Fiat Dino (Ferrari)." I took that to mean that the Ferrari was an after thought.

I have never received so much criticism from those posts.

And, in reading those posts, I realize I was wrong. This is a true Ferrari, and a very beautiful one.

 

Sorry but underneath the skin of a modern day RR is a BMW 7 series.

Same deal.

Just accept Dino's for what they are. Keep off the stupid badges and tacked on Ferrari scripts.

It's a Dino -- and it's great for what it is.

And I will add this -- if a Dino GT wasn't pretty no one would give a crap what it was.

 

Someone posted earlier that this was "settled" in an earlier thread. Just curious, which way was it settled?

 

Actually, this was settled in the 1980's. In the mid 90's it returned which proves determining what is settled or not settled depends on what point of history you stand in at the time.

 

agreed - I love the Evora!! Especially the 400!!!

 

You have to look into the emotion and psychology of Enzo Ferrari as a person and as a father. Enzo loved "Dino" his son and was grief stricken when he died. This could be why he said "Tiny, brilliant, safe. Almost a Ferrari". I believe he was talking about his son and with his beloved son having died too soon. It is also interesting that he numbered these special cars in even chassis numbers like his competition cars and the model number is by displacement and number of cylinders.

Another question is, why does Ferrari allow them to be Ferrari Classisched? Why not ASA's?

I believe, in Enzo's heart, he saw Dino as his successor and the Dino 206/246GT was a living symbol of that. He still saw Dino, his son as a young man and therefore the Dino 206/246GT had to prove itself as a "Ferrari".

Freeman