'Official' F12M Rumours and Launch

Base Bleed air intakes like 488?

 

Ingegnere, I'm speechless with your designs.

So it's almost certain it's going to be a tone-down TdF rear with GTC4Lusso quad tail-lights. We wait and see.

 

I'm looking forward to electric assist V12 as well but that won't happen till F12M replacement
Ferrari Reportedly Patents Front-Engined Hybrid Architecture

 

That design guessing period is so fascinating that I don't want the unveiling to happen too soon

Ingegnere, CIA should hire to try to figure out the shape of the futur chinese combat aircraft.

The rear seems to look GREAT, a bit better than the actual F12 IMO

 

I recall a lot of criticism of the F12 rear when the first images were released by Ferrari comparing it to a uterus - based on Ingegnere's drawings and the camo photos, I doubt similar criticism will be levelled at the F12M's rear when pics are officially released....

 

Ferrari have done a pretty good job covering up the details of the aero despite the latest mules being relatively unmasked, so I'm not exactly sure I have the complete picture.

Starting at the front, I believe there will be scoops on the hood inboard of the lights (as per my last sketch) and these will exit at the rear and top of the front fender and hood, reminiscent of the aero-bridge on F12.

The distinguishing feature of this car will be the new side vent exiting behind the front axle and rising along the flanks. This I suppose will evacuate air from the front fender well and front brakes. Not sure this vent communicates with the engine bay.

At the rear, based on what we can see, what we've been told by those in the know and based on existing design solutions on the GTC and 488, I expect a multitude of vents and openings at and around the rear.

Recall that the F12 had the scoops at the top of the rear fenders, which were used to affect the pressure in the rear wheel well and exit through the diffuser. I think these will be sited similarly in the new car (hence the covering of the fender tops and scoop on the RHS of one of the latest mules and all the talk of flying buttresses) or on, or near, the top of the rear fender as per my second sketch. This latter vent has been described as a single tdf-style vent, but different location and angle.

The scoop behind the quarter window, I think will flow through to the area around the taillights, similar to the 488, for drag reduction. I don't think the flow will cross over to the base of the rear hatch, as that would be too tortuous a path, with attendant loss of energy in the airflow.

As isot suggests, the area between the taillights will probably be fed from the base of the backlight, for a blow spoiler effect. I feel that the backlight is more horizontal in this new car (the tail seems higher) and suspect this was done in order to maintain an attached flow and therfore more energy in the flow in order to feed the underside of the spoiler.

The expected vents in the bumper are likely for ventilating the area of exhaust heat or rear whell well pressure.

I think it was Mr. Massini who said this car will have lots of scoops and vents - he wasn't kidding!

 

I am confused about the purpose of the rear window vent especially being used to reduce drag. Seems just let the wind go buy instead of scooping, routing it through the body and exiting around the rear lights. Sounds like a parachute? Seems a vent anywhere atop the fender as has been described serves the purpose to take pressure out of the rear wheel well. Having both forms of venting would not be necessary other than pure design flair. There's no engine back there. Love the mystery of a new body.

 

Had a chat with my tech guy at the dealer. He confirmed to have seen a slightly camouflaged version in October. Said the F12m will look very, very similar to the current F12. A less hardcore version of the TDF in the looks department.

 

That's a little disappointing, if true. My dealer principal called the M's design "dramatic''.

 

He did confirm it was camouflaged.... And repeatedly said it was very similar....
He started chatting to me very casual as my F12's battery died whilst being picked up.

 

It's always interesting to hear the different subjective assessments from people on new designs. Objectively, the new car will be very similar in the sense that it's basically built on the same platform, same/similar chassis, same size and probably re-uses same greenhouse as F12.

On the other hand, it has all new sheet metal and the graphical elements and functional elements (aero) have been completely revisited.

 

Indeed, personal preferences and tastes vary a lot. What one person calls dramatic is a minor change for the other.
He did have no info whatsoever about drivetrain.

 

The F12 is herralded across the globe. Why would Ferrari make really dramatic changes. Something that is great can only be made better or horribly worse.

 

100% - if one looks at the 360/430 and the F12 & TdF which share their respective platforms, one can see that there can be a LOT of variation introduced. I have faith that Ferrari will produce another stunner.

I can't claim to having been the biggest fan of the F12 (mainly the rear treatment), but the 488 is stunning which is reassuring given that the 458 was already one of the most beautiful Ferraris.



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Another positive is the increased competition Ferrari is facing. The supercar segment is one of the few growth areas aside from SUVs. I hear the next McLaren (650/675 replacement) is a real stunner. Bentley are seriously talking about putting the EX into production (best looking concept car in Geneva 2015). So Ferrari has got more pressure than ever to be at the bleeding edge. Lucky us!


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Good points, both.

Best solution always is to taper the "boat-tail" as much as possible to reduce the base area, but styling and regulatory requirements (example, taillights location, bumper size) may drive alternate solutions. For example, on the 488, instead of ducting air to the back through the top scoop portion of the divided side scoop, the fender tops could have been slimmed down instead. But then, you'd lose that muscular look.

A vent on the rear deck (which looks possible) to create a mini flying buttress, but just for the sake of having a flying buttress seems superfluous (here again, why not shape the deck differently) unless the air coming out is used to good effect, by driving the flow for better drag reduction or more lift reduction, i.e., the flow is accelerated by a slot, some Coanda effect, or augmented by a fan. Who knows? I don't ;-)

 

If it's entirely different from current F12, then Ferrari wouldn't use that kind of light camouflage, it would be like the camouflage from F12, that was something you couldn't really tell much details! Because that's an entirely different car than 599 the difference between these two are like girls in yoga pants and girls in winter coats, you know hehe

To be honest I'm more interested in interior design, will it be almost same just like 458 to 488, a slightly difference? If hey don't use the big touch screen from gtc4 lusso, then it could be the same design language as F12, if it's like that then is some kind of disappointing, at least they should upgrade the LCD cluster with better graphics and high resolutions

 

Because Jason Castriota has left the building!

 

LMAO!

 

My dealer confirms that there is a central screen.....not sure who to believe anymore.