'Official' F12M Rumours and Launch

599 is a good example of how a flying buttress design can be beneficial. Recall that the rear glass (backlight) is very steeply tapered especially in plan view, so in normal circumstances the air would have difficulty remaining attached in the adverse pressure conditions at that area. Here the buttresses guided relatively high pressure air, aided by the vortex likely created by the hockey stick shape at the base of the buttress to help the flow stay attached all the way to the rear spoiler, providing drag and downforce benefits.

On the F12M, if the scooped air is exhausted at the trailing edge of the C-pillar, the benefits would not be useful since the backlight is set below the pillar, so would just separate because of the out-of-wind step. Now if this scooped air is of high enough pressure that it can be introduced through a gap in the step along the edges of the rear windows, that would be an interesting solution and maybe what you were hinting at.

 

Yep, mine too, strong hint anyway. He is very discreet and correct.

 

I think I want one love my F12 but guess I will have to get the new F12m....as long as they don't screw up the sound and I suspect they won't ....

 

Ingegnere,
Could possible the fin behind the front wheel come from the bottom rather than the top. Similar to yet a more stylized version of the 599XX. It would be similar to the LaF. Someone did say that the treatment was similar to the LaF. The top crease could die right into the wheel well like the 599xx.

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I thought so too and showed something similar in my original sketch, also because I find that arrangement more appealing and more balanced visually. Nice choice of car the 599XX, BTW. And similar to the design of the fin on the Pininfarina Rossa show car, which I always expected would show up on a future car.

A couple of things made me change my mind though; firstly, we can kind of perceive the top crease turning down towards the front; and secondly, the top crease could not rise so steeply if it was coming from a basically horizontal split line behind the front wheel. Also, the shape I drew is similar to what is used on the GTC, but sans vent - which, BTW, I don't really like.

 

It belongs to Fchat member BALH. He also has a FXXK in a similar color, as well as all the recent LE ferraris

 

Coincidence that R&T published an article today on the 599's flying buttresses? Hope it's not a re-post:

How the Ferrari 599 GTB Accidentally Changed Car Design

 

Nice - really like the 599XX!

 

The 599 is one of my ALL times favorites.

 

Me too. Its design has something UNIQUE that is impossible to describe. No car produces the same effect.

 

Agreed. Going to two simple tail lights in back was so elegant in addition to the flying buttresses. Wow.

 

Interesting that LDM wanted assurances that flying buttresses were functional. Do you think "the Sweater" has the capacity to even notice a flying buttress?

 

Yes I like the 599 also extremely. Even the 599XX, because "everything" makes sense, this car moves around exclusively on the racetrack.

I am generally annoyed by the development to more holes, wings and other aero gadgets. It assumes ever more exaggerated forms. This may be exciting on the race track. But in everyday traffic, it seems rather ridiculous and out of place. So I am still laughing about the ironing board of the Porsche GT3...

I fear the F12"M" follows this trend.

 

The original 599XX is a beauty - love the winglets that protrude from the flying buttresses. Also available for the GTO but sadly not homologated.

The 599XXevo is also fantastic - but sadly loses some of the design purity with the need for a big rear wing.




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ingegnere-

I was looking at other images and find that the one below (posted on another thread) gives great insight to the F12M rear window venting we have been discussing. You can see that the backside edges of the hatchback have been neatly covered over and there are strong high edges to the hatch that are not on the berlinetta. I believe that this clearly spells out that the rear window vents open to the hatchback sides forming flying buttresses.

Also, to me, it appears that the rear spoiler is vented forming a flat plane from the rear windshield back. The spoiler may also be active (tilt controlled) but I could be imagining that. I think you can also see a tall lower flap behind the front wheel similar to the 'XX' car. Let me know what you think. I'm pretty sure about the buttresses and the blown spoiler though and its definitely built off the tdf body. Time for a new rendering?
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This was a F12 tdf my friend

 

Thanks for pointing his out. I now understand what's been spoken about in this thread. All sounds very exciting! Can't wait to see your next illustration.


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Thank you. Yes, I see now that the original post described it as a development tdf. Since the platform is likely the same then one can imagine the described details on the F12M perhaps. Sorry for any confusion.

 

If TDF can be any clue, you can find the plastic wind deflector at the same location where the buttress is expected in the F12M.

This must be a proof that inherent F12 design had a wind drag inefficiency right behind the rear quarter window.

Perhaps, an induction duct ala flying buttresses can resolve this.


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No problem. Personally I doubt there would be a buttress. Probably an air intake that leeds air above the rear spoiler.

 

This can't be a coincidence that there is an article in R&T and Evo at the same time about flying buttresses

http://www.evo.co.uk/features/18650/ferrari-599-gtb-fiorano-flying-buttresses-evo-art-of-speed


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In regards to 'flying buttresses' on the F12M I feel it's not very probable. From the camo pics it seems that they'll be a slot similar to the Ferrari SP America one off.

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