Countach Downdraft 1985 to 1988.5

Hi Joe,

Yes this is Harry's car. Harry has some documentation, I think, that states the car was already sold but Portman asked to borrow it/retain prior to delivery to display the car at the motor show.

Cheers

 

I couldn't tell you the chassis number (though we know someone who can-ahem Robert) but this car didn't stay white/red for long. The owner resprayed it black and had the interior retrimmed in black leather along with black tinted windows and polished rims.
This car then wore the Reg no A6 GRD (AGGRO) though pretty sure he then sourced the Reg plate A6GRO.
The owner was very young, 23 at the time, if my memory serves, lived in Hastings, and had owned a few nice cars before including a Lotus Esprit turbo and Pantera GT5.
He was kind enough to let me sit in the car which I think I have a picture of on my Flickr site.

Cheers

Ps thanks for sharing more of my snaps

 

As it was for everyone else too! ;-)

So...I have further evidence that D421 is not Rob Capp's 185 EXY.

The below scan is from an article in Red Line magazine (Oct 87) - which became World Sports car magazine - which had a hand in running the castle Combe test days.

In the text it mentions there were two pearlescent white QVs, as per my thinking.
I can also see why I thought both owners were called Rob as they have incorrectly 'credited' Rob Capp as owning the other QV.

So I wonder where D421 is now?

Cheers
SS
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...and finally...
This was taken at an event near where I lived called (highly unoriginally!) the Italian Car Day.
I was lucky enough to become friends with the owner and some months later got to drive the car. I got video evidence but strangely no still snaps?!?!

The attached video grab demonstrates the joy a QV brings.

oh and without taking this thread off QVs too far - it was at this event that I got to see 1121034 which was owned by a guy called Graeme if I recall.

Now Joe, I have a bone to pick with you because I had planned to go and see Graeme in London and get to passenger in his car, only for him to email me to tell me that he had received an offer he couldn't refuse and it had been sold to the States.
I believe you were instrumental in this transaction. You denied me the privilege of getting up close and personal with one of the nicest Series Ones.

I did a disc for Graeme of all the images I took, which I think you may have seen Joe. He said he was so pleased to have some good quality snaps of the car.

Anyway - Joe you owe me a ride is an S1 ;-)
Only joking.

Back to QVs...

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Hi Joe, you engine bay is spectacular! I did notice a difference from GLA12988, it may be a minor modification which the factory implemented from yours onwards, it is the rubber water hose from the water pump to the steel tubing, mine has a bend to lower the mating to the tubing while yours seems much straighter. I did retain, for originality, the air pump (although never connected) and the hose position is conditioned by the air pump. I have included you photo first.
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Excellent ahem-ing. HLA12104.

Baffled as to the identity of D421...

Really nice posts.

Happy New Year all.

 

While sobering up at wake up, I went check the Countach DD values on NADA to see if it would help. here is what i found:

1985 Lamborghini Countach 5000 Quattro 2 Door Coupe
Original MSRP Low Retail Average Retail High Retail
Base Price $100,000 $364,200 $453,600 $472,900
Options: (change)
Quattro Carbureted 4Valve 75% 75% 75%
TOTAL PRICE: $100,000 $637,350 $793,800 $827,575

If I am not too much under the influence still , I read the DD is valued twice more than the injected which I know is not the opinion this community has. Beyond that I don't see many DD selling at $600K+ , let alone $800K+

I saw other ar I know pretty much on target and NADA has good reputation about valuations. How did they come out with these numbers? I mean they just cant throw numbers like that.

Happy new year to all!

 

The story of D421 is ringing bells. I have heard it before, and I have seen the car. It's still in the UK. Off the road for a while now, but in very good hands.

Next time I see the owner I will ask him if he minds confirming the VIN for the public record.

Happy New Year, all...

J

 

Joe,

Thanks for hinting that the numbers may show they were more under the influence than I. It is re-assuring to know I was not completely gone for the day.

Your comment on fuelies vs DD is interesting and while I am not a pro so I dont really care but I am curious to see how that will develop. I can see a large gap for muira S vs SV due to very bit technical changes, once being the engine / gearbox oil lubrification improvement. Injection vs Carbs is more perplexing for a 75% gap, unless it is indicative of a very discounted USA vs. Euro model car which we do see on other car models.

Finally, indeed we have not seen clean DD going thru public auction and may be a formal "book" value will be better set when 2 or 3 cars go thru. So far the only DD going thru were on the fast price rise so that no longer counts to establish a price base.
I would think that NADA does takes these numbers when available.

 

Here is another intersting question/observation on the "DD vs. Fuelie" discussion.

There is such a huge difference in the prices of a DD versus FI 5000QV, I wonder why this doesn't carry over to Ferrari, say for the 512BB vs. 512BBi ?

Checking the Hagerty value guide, there is only a $5000 difference between a 1981 BB and an '82 512bbi.

I'm not a Ferrari expert, but even the production numbers between the two Ferrari 512 derivatives don't really favor one over the other (929 of 512bb and 1007 of 512bbi). Where as the 5000QV production numbers are close to 2/3 DD to 1/3 Fuelie. However, it is strange that there isn't a huge value difference between the two of them as there is for the 5000QV.

Mike

 

Interesting photo out the back window with the power dome acting as a mirror
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