I have never bought a new Ferrari either. Not sure what has changed in the last two weeks, but I got the same story from the dealers in the South East and ended up with a spot from one of the above - walked in with a deposit. The dealer did say that they have had a lot of speculative enquiries. He also thought that the car might have a short production run in which case it might be bringing out the speculators.
Maranello's, who have one of the largest allocations, also sold out, and not to speculators. I cannot believe we are back to the day of the new production car premium. What came next wasn't pretty.
I don't know of a UK dealer that can get an allocation now. Maybe 2020 when some speculators have left the scene. Makes an F12 a good buy IMHO.
Everyone knows this is the last N/A V12 - that's what is driving demand. Ferrari's announced every car from 2019 will be a hybrid unlike the Speciale when it wasn't that public. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Off topic I know, but whilst we all love N/A, anyone have an issue with the LF's performance? Yes battery technology needs to improve for a DD, but I cannot believe that Ferrrai would do anything other than create a wonderful V12 hybrid when the time comes, and with yet more performance and improved emissions etc. To me, buying the M looking for profit, certainly later in the run, is fools gold. Mine I will keep and most likely trade in in 2021 for whatever comes next.
Totally agree. As Enzo used to say the best Ferrari is the next one. The 488 is immensely more drivable as an everyday car BECAUSE it's a turbo not despite it. Electric assistance will be brilliant and just think of all the things one can do with some additional motors. Look at the Porsche 918 - faster and more usable than the LaF and the P1 in just about every condition. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I am afraid your words above may be prophetic I agree with you re hybrid. Compared to N/A, while technical complexity of hybrid is higher, LF shows that power/weight is already better despite the added weight. Add that to lighter battery packs in the future, a highly tuned V12 with electrically filled torque gaps sounds very attractive.
Thanks. By top lip sweeping down, I think you mean like the outer edges of the front opening on the LaF (and current F12 and 488), yes? I agree this is a guess as the only thing that's pretty certain from the pics is that there is a fully surrounded grille which is under-slung off the bumper. The grille surround (which may be will be presented in black to emphasize the front opening) seems to be floating over the front lip spoiler except at the center, where the lip spoiler is raised and connects to the grille surround. The rest of the front opening (extending beyond the grille) can either be fish-mouthed (as in 488, for example) or more closed at the bottom (458, for example), but I'm guessing the former because it lightens up the visual mass of the front. What I think you are seeing in some pics is what I believe will be strakes or winglets at the sides similar to the J50 which, you will note, has the front opening shaped as I expect. In any case, looking forward to seeing the real deal. For sure and thanks. As noted above, this one really has me anxious to see the first real pics.
I'm told the model code is F152M perhaps indicating the name will just be F12M rather than a Daytona variant? I'm curious about UK dealers saying they've sold their allocation... is this not just a method of putting off speculators? I would be amazed if the whole UK allocation had gone prior to its actual release?! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I guess so. I have to option of seeing the car on 9-10 of February. This summer first test drives will become available. So at least there will be a build up towards the launvh. But yeah, 2 years....
The project name of F12M is F152m for sure. My German friend told me the information in June 2016. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Actually, the 918 launches harder due to the 4WD system, but once traction is no issue the LaFerrari is the quicker car. It shows at higher speeds (i.e. 0-150 mph). But I get your point; electrification is good for performance, as demonstrated by all three hybrid hypercars.
I am excited by the potential of a hybrid V12 and I'm sure I'll buy one in due course when they become available as a standard car rather than an LE. However it doesn't stop me getting very excited about the last of the pure play V12's. I think we're living in a very interesting period of automotive development and I intend to enjoy the F12M for what it is rather than what might come after it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Not really that surprised about the 800hp. It's just a mind twisting number form any NA engine. We live in a day and age where some brand will say for the first time: "no, this is enough power". Our biggest limitation will be ourselves. How we can actually handle speed. Considering the speed of technological advancements and how they look slightly similar to Moore's law, we will have the option of cars that go from 0-300km in just a few seconds. When do we say; enough is enough. Or perhaps before the governemnt steps in and says that 1000hp in a Camry is just not sensible anymore.
