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166 Chassis 0300 Berlinetta/Barchetta

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  1. Olczyk

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    I see in the CSC that are for sale the Ferrari 166/53 Chassis 0300 Berlinetta who was modified as Barchetta by Oblain in Belgium in1954.
    Do you have any infos please

    P.S What a fantastic coincidence as the story is semblable as 117 S !
     
  2. EnzoNZ

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    Mike S had it advertised in FML in early 2004:

    *166 MM/53 OBLIN SPYDER S/N 0300 M. Built as a Vignale coupe and competed in nine races in 1953-54, scoring 1st in class at the Rallye des Alpes and at the Liege-Rome-Liege rally, and 2nd in class at the Tour de France. Rebodied in 1954 by Oblin of Brussels as a very attractive competition spyder. Entered nine races in the 1954-55 season, scoring one 1st & two 2nd place finishes. Shown in the 1954 Ferrari yearbook. One owner since 1984, restored in 1992 by Bob Smith Coachworks and has appeared at the Cavallino Classic & other events. Photos & complete details online. $1,295,000 o.b.o. 1/04
    Michael Sheehan’s ferraris-online.com, 949-646-6086, fax 949-646-6078, [email protected], www.ferraris-online.com (CA)
     
  3. Olczyk

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    Thank You and I would like to take this occasion to thanks all the members who provide time and effort to help to find correct infos.
    To show my gratitude, I will be happy to offer 40 free books of De Tomaso " Macchina da Corsa" but I need one adress to ship them all and after the responsable of this forum will give himself to the members
     
  4. enzo360

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    I have following info on 0300 M
    166 MM
    berlinetta by Vignale
    first owner:J. Herzet
    Rebodied by Oblin in early 50's
    53 Coupes de Spa no 23 Herzet 2°
    53 Rallye des Alpes no 404 Herzet / Bianchi 1CL
    53 Liege Rome Liege no 68 Herzet / Bianchi 1CL
    53 Tour de France no 22 Herzet / Bianchi 2° Cl, 7°OA
    53 Rallye de Lisbon Herzet 10°
    53 GP de Rio de Janeiro Herzet 5°
    53 GP de Sao Paolo Claes 10°
    54 GP du Brasil Herzet / Claes DNF
    54 GP de Sao Paolo Claes 10°
    54 Spa Sport no 12 Herzet DNS
    54 12H de Reims no 34 Herzet / Claes 6 CL
    54 Liege Rome Liege no 103 Herzet / Bianchi DNF
    54 Tour de France no 126 Herzet / Bianchi DNF
    54 GP de Pena Rhin Barcelone no 24 Claes 11°
    55 KM Lance de Waterloo Herzet 2 CL
    55 Campione Sar no 119 Herzet 1 CL
    55 Spa Voiture de Serie no 19 Herzet 2°
    55 GP des Frontieres no 40 Herzet 4°
    56 12H de Reims no 15 Herzet / Bianchi DNS
    56 Cote de Namur no 34 Herzet 6 CL
    57 Cote de Bomeree no 110 Herzet 5 CL
    plate 22486BO
    regards
    Jurgen
     
  5. Bertocchi

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    It would best to send them to Rob Lay, our Director. Send him a PM.

    Thank you, David
     
  6. MJarrettR

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    166 MM/53 Vignale Coupe, RHD


    1953 - Jacques Herzet, Brussels [BO 22486]
    1953/may/17 - 2nd - Coupe de Spa - Herzet #23
    1953/july/10 - 1st IC - Rallye des Alpes - Herzet/Bianchi #404
    1953/aug/23 - 3rd OA, 1st IC - Liege-Rome-Liege Rallye - Herzet/Bianchi #68
    1953/sep/5 - 7th - Tour de France - Herzet/Bianchi #22
    1953/oct/18 - 10th - Lisbon Rallye - Herzet
    1953/dec/13 - 5th - GP Rio de Janeiro - Herzet
    1953/dec/27 - 10th - GP Sao Paulo - Claes
    1954/jan/3 - dnf - GP Baxil - Herzet/Claes
    1954/jan/10 - 10th - GP Sao Paulo - Claes
    1954 - rebodied as Spyder by Oblin (Belgium)
    1954/may/23 - dns - Spa Sport - Herzet #12
    1954/july/3 - 6th IC - 12h Reims - Herzet/Claes #34
    1954/aug/18 - dnf - Liege-Rome-Liege Rallye - Herzet/Bianchi #103
    1954/sep/3 - dnf - Tour de France - Herzet/Bianchi #126
    1954/oct/23 - 11th - GP Penya Rhin, Barcelona - Claes #24
    1955/mar/27 - 2nd IC - KM Lance de Waterloo - Herzet
    1955/apr/3 - 1st IC - SAR Cup - Herzet #119
    1955/may/8 - 2nd - Sports Car Race, Spa - Herzet #19
    1955/may/29 - 4th - GP des Frontieres - Herzet #40
    1956/apr/8 - 4th - 12h de Huy - Herzet #17
    1956/may/13 - 3rd - Spa, Voiture de Series - Herzet
    1956/may/20 - 10th - GP des Frontieres - Herzet #44
    1956/june/30 - dns - 12h Reims - Herzet/Bianchi #15
    1956/sep/30 - 6th IC - Cote de Namur Hillclimb - Herzet #34
    1957/mar/10 - 5th IC - Cote de Bomeree Hillclimb - Herzet #110
    1957 - Jean De Dobbelus, Brussels, Belgium
    1966/sep - Ed Bond, Old Saybrook, Connecticut, USA
    1970 - Steve McGeary, Miami, Florida, USA
    1975 - Robert Cressman, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, USA
    1977 - Robert Selz, Hallandale, Florida, USA for $15,000
    1992-93 - restored
    1999/jan/23 - shown at the Cavallino Classic Concours d’Elegance, Palm Beach, FL by Robert Selz
    2001/mar/9-11 - shown at the Amelia Island Concours d’Elegance, Ritz Carlton, FL by Robert Selz
    2002/jan/26 - shown in the Cavallino Classic Concours d’Elegance, Breakers Hotel, Palm Beach by Robert Selz
    2002/oct/19-20 - shown at the Winter Park Concours d'Elegance, Winter Park, FL by Robert Selz
    2004/mar - Offered for sale by Mike Sheehan, Costa Mesa, CA for $1,195,000
    2005/may/19-22 - Driven in the Mille Miglia by Selz/Selz #266

    Primary Source: Ferrari by Vignale, Author: Marcel Massini
    See also: Ferrari Ecurie Francorchamps by Gianni Rogliatti

    -Jarrett
     
  7. GTE

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    Sorry for kicking this thread, but better kicking an old one than starting a new one ;)

    Does anyone know whether or not the Oblin Spyder was once painted in a black/green livery? I know it was once red/white.

    Thanks.
     
  8. GTE

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  9. ggjjr

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    Actually, there is also an article in the latest Cavallino which shows a period photo with paint as it is today. As counterintuitive as it seems, this current paint job looks to be as it was in the day.

    George
     
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  10. El Wayne

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    #11 El Wayne, Feb 5, 2013
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    Don't have the issue with me, but is this the photo shown, or is there another?
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  11. jjmcd

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    There are many period photos, along with a copy of Marcel Massini's report on the car, in the link in my post above.
     
  12. El Wayne

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    Yes, but only one color photo - the same one that I posted. I have not seen another from the same period.
     
  13. GTE

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  14. NürScud

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    Is it brown, grey or black? In the last photo i cannot understand what colour is it.
     
  15. El Wayne

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    Flat gray.
     
  16. ggjjr

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    Yes, this is the one.

    George
     
  17. NürScud

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    Thank you.
     
  18. GTE

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    A nice article on this particular car by Marcel Massini in the latest edition of Cavallino.
     
  19. MassaFan

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    Does anyone has an idea what the color was back when it was bodied as a vinagle coupe? It's surely a two tone paint but was it red/silver (i asume) or other?
    thanks for the help. If you have a answer please let me know via pm or e-mail
     
  20. BIRA

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    Looking at the pciture , i guess the paint was at the time as unusual as the driver's hat,,that is matching his white gloves i guess or hiding his boldness...unless it is a very advanced helmet...
     
  21. 275gtb6c

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    Don't challenge me....as I have a very simular picture of you......

    Ciao
    Oscar
     
  22. carvad

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    #23 carvad, May 29, 2014
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    From the memories Lucien Bianchi (former F1 driver):

    "The following year, 53 Jacques Herzet, wanting to buy a two-liter Ferrari, asked me to accompany him to Modena, where I knew all the factory technicians to help them choose a car".

    So, Lucien Bianchi helped Herzet to buy 0300M or even inspired to by first Herzet's Ferrari? Does anybody know more from that story?
     
  23. Patrick Faucompre

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    The only thing I can tell you is that he married Herzet's daughter in the next year or two. He was a very good and friendly man. I had the chance to meet him a few years latter when he still had a little garage in Brussels. A great man, low profile, left us too early.
     
  24. Quasimotor

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    Hey Tifosi - some good news, especially for readers of this thread. I have been commissioned to write an article about the restoration of the 166 Chassis 0300 for Forza Magazine. Gratefully, I have been given a ton of pictures and research by the restorer, Automotive Restoration Inc., but I would like to know more. So...if any of you in this thread have any questions or information that would help me make it a better article, please post.

    I am also interested to know what Qlczyk was referring to in the following terms of his/her first post above: "CSC" and "117 S". Can you please fill me in? What other story was like the story of the 0300?

    Finally, more good news (I hope you think it's good). One of my recent article submissions is due to appear in the next issue of Forza. It's about the Ferrari owners of...Alaska. So for those of you in cold climates - here's something to read around a nice warm fire.

    Best wishes to all

    Quasimotor
     

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