930 Turbo Carrera

The 3.0 Turbo is only now starting to be appreciated for what it is, due to rarity and previous general lack of knowledge on the car, especially over here in the UK. Only 74 cars were UK delivered over the full 3 model years (22 in '75, 18 in '76 and 34 in '76 - source PCGB).
Around 10 years ago, one of the Porsche websites was actually referring to it as a "dog" in its review of the various 911 models. Rather incensed, I got mine tested by the UK magazines but it was the tester from 911 & Porsche World (Aug 2012) who really got to grips with it and understood what it is all about.
There are a couple of photos of c/n 225 on page 3 of this thread (silver, blue leather). It has a rather interesting history which I ought to write up and post.

Thanks jb21, Phil and rynoshark for the info on auction results. The Kidston K500 index unfortunately doesn't list the car I'm researching. (It is my 1951 Lancia Aurelia Cabriolet. Geneva Motor Show car, restored in US and placed in Class at 2005 Pebble Beach. I'm considering selling it and having trouble finding what its value is). Sorry this bit "off piste"!

 

FWIW Hagerty's valuation tool pegs B50 Cabriolet at $188,000 in concours condition; $155,000 in excellent condition.

 

Please do write up the history of your 3.0

as to Lancia, if it's a B50, they barely ever trade and last sale was B501443 26/6/15 Goodwood via Bonhams. Made Stg 91,000, US$ 143k at the time. Features reported as dark blue, 2010 restoration, fitted with a 2.4 litre B12 engine.

 

Very important day and I am excited to have got the original production document for my 1975, together with the official confirmation about the SONDERWUENSCHE exterior and interior (luckly still present!).

Here it is, a simple document but all-important for the car history.

Apparently not easy to get one from Porsche AG these days...
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Wonderful document.

 

Congrats - very nice!

 

Porsche 924 brochure featuring 1975 Turbo, S CJ 6701. Does anyone have a copy of this brochure? It would be nice to have a better resolution scan.
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Congrats- love to run a couple of those down.

Phil

 

These 1975 911s have similar papers in the windshield...note the rotated and reversed-color diver flag papers on both cars.
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I'm not sure what that process is in those photos, or if it was even a process at the factory (as opposed to a marketing staged event to get photos of an "inspection" process). Note they aren't wearing "Porsche" uniforms like employees would have...they are all different clothing. If they were test drivers or inspectors they would have a standard uniform/jackets.

Note that all four cars are the same in both photos. There is a lack of the plastic body protection on the cars (e.g. by 1976 they put black plastic over wear areas of the car like flares and bumpers on the assembly line until delivered to dealer). The window is missing the actual tags that were used in production, and instead these forms/brochures in the left window exist. Plus, the license plates are from Ludvigsberg (LB) where Porsche's marketing department was then, as opposed to Stuttgart (S). It is a mix of 1975 model year 911s with what appears to be a 1976 model year Turbo that is either a USA/Canadian or Japanese model.

Very strange! I really wonder what is in those windows and what is going on in the photo. I believe the guy with the Turbo is Wolfgang Berger from the racing department. My hunch is they were taking these photos somewhere for marketing photos...and these were just photos in the process.

 

Here is another scratching on a 1975 Turbo, but since it is "4" over "429" in this case I don't think the number indicates the chassis number. This is a very early 1975 Turbo, but I don't know the chassis number.

More samples needed!
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Can you be more specific?

 

I asked about right hand drive delivery numbers on DDk and was told only 36 3lt turbos were delivered to Uk. Thank you for shining the light on these PCGB numbers. Here in Australia we had 6/75,14/76,21/77 Total 41 cars delivered into our market. So 115 between Uk and Aus, would be interesting to nail down total Rhd production.

 

Another photo of ONS 1975 Turbo, BB PV 612 circa 1980. Fitted with a 3.3 liter Turbo tail and 16 inch Fuchs w/ Pirelli P7s. Note the 25-year decal in the rear glass, dual tow hooks, and still equipped with the original 1975 speaker dash pad.
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The received wisdom has usually been roughly 15 total RHD in '75.

The Porsche Club GB 930 page https://www.porscheclubgb.com/regions-registers/registers/classic/930 and at least one reputable forum has it that the total assumed RHD 930 number was revised, on new information, from 36 to 74 a few years back. I don't know the source but presumably it is factory related if on the PCGB web site. The hope is, what squares that circle is that the 36 number is all UK RHD 3.0s and the 74 could be worldwide. If we put that original 36 with the Aussie 41 mentioned we are not far off.

I realise that the Aussie '75 number has always been thought of as 6, but while researching my car I was sent a list by a previous owner with the following 7 chassis numbers for '75 Australian cars. Is it possible that the 6 number is for customer cars and the ice green Aussie show car is not included?

9305700016 (ice green motor show car)
9305700080 (guards red)
9305700080 (emerald)
9305700222 (emerald)
9305700229 (silver)
9305700272 (mahogany?)
9305700281 (silver)

If anyone knows that one of these chassis numbers is not an Aussie delivered car, that might clear the mystery up.

 

Possibly. This is the document that I am using,
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Thx for the info.
I have nr 79 in my hands,its the same colour as yours.
At the moment i have only the simple kardex info at hand.
A few point's are not clear to me yet.
M 432 protective lacquer finish trunk,what kind of finish might this be aside of standard?
M 439 side decals,might these be the door or side turbo decals?
M 395 low profile tires,are these P7's or CN's?
Great all the info you are posting here,thx for that!

 

I think 432 would have been the rather rare black hood safety stripes (check out post 3416 on the thread) and 439 is black Porsche lettering along the side. I think you can best tell whether you had CN or P7 tyres by having a quick look at your speedo. If part number 911 641 532 00 and date stamped early, then it's set up for the CN option. My car is one chassis number after yours and has some option code confusion that I am working through. I am now fairly confident it did not have P7s. I think in 1975 that M395 could still be a code for wheels rather than P7 option tyres.

 

This list above has your vin # included twice.

 

Yeah, typo.

Should read 9305700080 Guards Red and 9305700085 is the first of two Emerald cars.

Thanks for the spot!

 

Great,i think this will look nice on dull silver.
I did not find info on M432,i tought this was protective laquer for inside the trunk.
Would this striping be painted for the hood and for the door a decal?
M439 says hatched logo,never seen this for real.
Might somebody have a clear pic of this decal?
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John

I have #274 which is a RHD delivered new to Hong Kong

 

My guess is that "protective" and "lacquer" are just poor translations of the original German, ignoring the proper context. "Safety" is similar in meaning, but what is being protected by the stripes is you, the driver, not the car's metalwork! Supposed to make you more visible on the road.

 

Thanks Jose, that is definitely not a car I would forget! Incredible trim. And you have appeared at just the right moment, since I remember that your car was delivered with the M432 stripes on the hood, no? Here is the picture you posted a while back so Vargas can see what we are talking about. I believe I can just make out Porsche lettering at the bottom of the door too. But might not be cross hatched?

I know the safety's are a statement and probably divide opinion here. You were undecided earlier, right? Curious as to whether you finally decided to reinstate these options.

J

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